<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 31 Aug 2020, at 08:41, Niko Neufeld <<a href="mailto:niko.neufeld@cern.ch" class="">niko.neufeld@cern.ch</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">+1 for paper before talk!!</div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>+1, this is a very good time to try this. </div><div><br class=""></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Stefan</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Niko<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 31 Aug 2020, at 08:07, Gordon T. Watts <<a href="mailto:gwatts@uw.edu" class="">gwatts@uw.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi all,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> I like how the form says “2021 or die” rather than “2021 and die”… Sorry – morbid humor. As someone that is organizing a large conference in the summer of 2021…<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> I support the rescheduling.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> As for the smaller workshops (CHEPinos – love that – though some of the “inos” are way more massive, btw, than the SM particles…). I think we might encourage some focused workshps, perhaps, and for those virtual workshops have a publication. It would be a great place, for example, to try out paper-before-talk, etc. This would mean a modest fee, of course, and I think most people would be comfortable paying for that. And doing it with the HSF and perhaps other journals is a great idea.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> Cheers,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> Gordon. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Chep2021-iac <<a href="mailto:chep2021-iac-bounces@jlab.org" class="">chep2021-iac-bounces@jlab.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Niko Neufeld<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, August 30, 2020 6:29 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:chep2021-iac@jlab.org" class="">chep2021-iac@jlab.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Chep2021-iac] [EXTERNAL] Re: CHEP2022??<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Dear all,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I am a bit more optimistic regarding the possibility to travel next year than the majority of the list, but of course I fully understand that the financial risk must be minimised. Having been now in some of these pure Online events makes me appreciate a “classical” conference much more than I had before the Covid-crisis (and I still have the fondest memories of my first CHEP in Victoria). It has been mentioned that not having a conference in 2021 might make some younger colleagues miss the opportunity for their first “big” paper during their current contract and given how hard (impossible) it is to place some of our technical work in other computing conferences this is I think a real concern. Maybe around some of the proposed “replacement” events one could organise a light-weight special edition of a journal to give an opportunity for a “real” publication? Of course even with a light-weight editing process as customary for CHEP proceedings this is still a fair amount of work. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">It seems to me that in the mid-term what could be useful to have for a big conference like CHEP is a kind of standing account, (maybe fed by the occasional small surplus?) which could be used as an “insurance” in situations such as the present, so that the organizers of future events have a bit more freedom when weighing cost and benefit and risk. Of course we all hope that such an event as Covid remains the rare exception. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Niko<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On 30 Aug 2020, at 11:14, Lucia Silvestris <<a href="mailto:Lucia.Silvestris@cern.ch" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Lucia.Silvestris@cern.ch</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Dear Amber, Graham, all;<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">First of all, I would like to thanks Amber and the full team for organize this conference in a such difficult time.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">I also support the move to 2022. In addition, as said by Marc will be very important that the different important computing conferences define their new schedule avoiding as much as possible overlap. So will be very important that the different organize committee work together to define new dates.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Themed virtual workshops in 2021 should be encouraged.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Let's hope that in between a COVID vaccine is discovered, produced and distributed worldwide, in a way that we can safety restart to travel and have the usual nice conferences in person.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Lucia</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">On 28/08/2020 15:28, Amber Boehnlein wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Dear CHEP IAC,<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Greetings!<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Jefferson Lab has a new events coordinator on staff, Anita Seay. Her first action was to negotiate with the hotels and the city of Norfolk about the possibilities concerning CHEP2021. The negotiating position is much stronger now than in May. The City of Norfolk and the hotels are making a recommendation to the hotels’ corporate offices of moving the conference without penalty to either Spring or Fall of 2022 if we can sign a contract that commits to an event in Norfolk in 2022 at the original number of attendees.<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">This is not the standard process for selecting the next CHEP, I know. Unusual times call for unusual actions. However, please let us know if you concur or not with the prospective date change<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forms.gle_BGiM1qxStCagGLeFA&d=DwMDaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=5DZHcMcight_dBsf2ORS9yIAvdeaeNcwHFyhjzgr2qo&m=pqausEZlorcMFreG7uEM-p4kLzQpHnjZgdW_U90qq-I&s=CdNzEPHyD_yNadTG5ZL4NHnPyDYXultGOxNJWbAvvc4&e=" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">https://forms.gle/BGiM1qxStCagGLeFA</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span> If a quorum of you do, and the corporate offices agree, Graham, Anita and I will submit an updated proposal to this body and we can discuss dates. <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We can then discuss what to do about 2021 as well. I like the idea of Regional virtual ‘CHEPinos’ with maybe some abbreviated ‘plenary’ format. <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The alternative is to proceed with the planning for an in-person CHEP2021 for reasons I’ll explain when we next meet.<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thank you so much, and we request a response by Sept 1.<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Amber and Graham<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Amber Boehnlein<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Computational Sciences and Technology Division Director<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">CIO<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Facility<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:amber@jlab.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">amber@jlab.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">7572697622 <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; 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