[Clas12_verystrange] PAC40 comments response, please read

Igor Strakovsky igor at va.gwu.edu
Wed Jun 12 10:07:48 EDT 2013


all is in the body of the proposal

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:06:48 -0400 (EDT), Eugene Pasyuk <pasyuk at jlab.org> 
wrote:

> Igor , 
> Yesterday we could not figure out what is p_b. 
> 
> -Eugene
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Igor Strakovsky" <igor at va.gwu.edu>
>> To: "Michael Dugger" <dugger at jlab.org>
>> Cc: "clas12 verystrange" <clas12_verystrange at jlab.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:57:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Clas12_verystrange] PAC40 comments response, please read
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> That is the theoretical plot and I sent Vitali's clarification to Lei
>> and Eugene
>> 
>> Here you are...
>> 
>> The Dalitz plot is constructed in terms of (K+ \Omega) vs (K0 \Omega
>> )
>>    variables. However the amplitude (see Fig.10) is not symmetric
>>    relative
>>    to the permutation of the K0 and K+ final states due to isospin
>>    and
>>    charge conservation. Therefore the resonance contribution is only
>>    seen
>>    in one band. For a fully symmetric amplitude  one could expect
>>    two-band
>>    structure as shown in Fig.13. Such a symmetric amplitude should
>>    include
>>    isospin 3/2 \Sigma resonances in the intermediate state.   Hence
>>     the
>>    Dalitz plot might be very useful to disentangle various production
>>    mechanism and to understand the reaction dynamics.
>> 
>>    Note the reaction mechanism can be more complicated then depicted
>>    in
>>    Fig.10. More realistic  calculation should also take the  CLAS
>>    acceptance in to  account.
>> 
>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:52:24 -0400 (EDT), Michael Dugger
>> <dugger at jlab.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > 
>> > Igor,
>> > 
>> > On page 25 of the proposal there is Fig. 12 that shows "phase space
>> > only"
>> >distributions and Fig. 13 that shows the "fully symmetric" reaction.
>> >The
>> >right panel of Fig. 12 has a vertical band at about 5.5 that is also
>> >seen in
>> >Fig. 13. The vertical band for Fig. 12 does not extend as much as
>> >for Fig.
>> >13.
>> > 
>> > We tried to understand the distributions during the meeting
>> > yesterday but we
>> >did not find the definition of "p_b" in the proposal.
>> > 
>> > Also, I do not know what "fully symmetric" means.
>> > 
>> > In short, we do not understand the figures because we don't know
>> > what p_b
>> >is, and that means we don't know how to reply to the comment.
>> > 
>> > We just need a bit of clarification.
>> > 
>> > Take care,
>> > Michael
>> > 
>> > On Wed, 12 Jun 2013, Igor Strakovsky wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Me too and I do not know what Lei is asking me for
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:29:00 -0400 (EDT), Michael Dugger
>> >> <dugger at jlab.org>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> 
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> 
>> >>> The response to 9 and 10 seem OK to me.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Take care,
>> >>> Michael
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Lei Guo wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>>> Hi, All,
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> I compiled a response to PAC40 comments. Please check and let me
>> >>>> know
>> >>>> if you think it should be modified.
>> >>>> Under svn, please check out PAC40Comment.pdf or
>> >>>> PAC40Comment.docx
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Specifically, we are missing an answer to question 6, which Igor
>> >>>> promised that he will do it tonight.
>> >>>> Also, I felt the answer to question 9 and10 might not be
>> >>>> adequate.
>> >>>> Maybe Mike can take a look at it?
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Cheers!
>> >>>> 
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