[Clas_offline] Meeting tomorrow Dec 22

[Dennis Weygand]

Our Tuesday meeting will address the following messages from Volker and Mont regarding long-term data preservation. 
The meeting room is CC/L102/104
Dennis


Forwarded excerpts below from Volker and Mont:

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> Hi all,
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> Our director, Mont, poses a challenge to the collaboration when asking about the status and plans for the data preservation of JLab, and in particular of CLAS data (see attached). Attached to Mont's email please find an interesting report related to the subject for the high energy physics experiments.
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> I would like to get some initial reaction from the heads of the working groups and other folks that I thought may have something to say about the issue, so I can compose an initial answer to Mont in a few days. To do this I would like to know what model of preservation we are currently following, if any.
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> Please address one or all of the following questions:
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> 1) What is the estimated total amount of "raw" + processed data that we currently preserve?
> 2) Is there a "CLAS" strategy, or is it up to individual run groups?  If there is not a CLAS strategy (which I suspect is the case), should there be a CLAS strategy?
> 3) What model in Table 1 of the attached report is closest to what we are currently doing or planning to do?
> 4) Are the HEP recommendation in the attached report suitable for CLAS?
> 5) Should we have a CLAS person involved in the HEP study group effort? (I noticed Matt Bellis is on the HEP study group list for BaBaR)
> 6) .. any other comments you like to make.
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> Dear All,
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>  The desirability of data preservation has been a long-time point of discussion and non-action, in particle physics. From an unknown source, I have sometime in the past months received the attached report which went to ICFA (International Committee on Future Accelerators) which gets whatever credence it has through C11 of IUPAP. This is somewhat analogous to WG9 of C12 of IUPAP, which Tony Thomas Chairs.
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> So, my questions are:
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>    What is the state of the analogous discussion for nuclear physics in general?
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>    What is the state of the analogous discussion for Jefferson Lab data in particular?
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>    Are we going to move beyond the 6 GeV era knowing that we can reach back to these data?
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>    Are we preparing for the CLAS data, the basis for the N* analyses to be accessible a decade or two from now?
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>    And for 12 GeV, what are we planning?
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>    Has WG9 discussed this?
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>    Has DNP discussed it?
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>    Has NSAC discussed it?
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>     Where-ever we are, is that where we want to be?
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>    IF yes? OK.
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>    IF not, what should we do about it?
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>   Comments???
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>   Feel free to propagate.
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>   Mont
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Dennis Weygand
weygand at jlab.org
(757) 269-5926



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