<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Dear Fulvia,<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Oops, our mails crossed. I agree, from reading her report it does not look<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>like an isolated incident. I am pleased you talked to Anna!<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Yes, due diligence and follow-up is required.<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>I do hope that perhaps a combination of Mary, you, Rhonda and me can<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>get together tomorrow, as I was at a review last two days. I can free up<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>most of the times tomorrow (and will try to be in by 9 am driving from DC).<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Best regards, Rolf<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Fulvia Pilat" <pilat@jlab.org><br><b>To: </b>"Andrew Hutton" <andrew@jlab.org>, "Rolf Ent" <ent@jlab.org><br><b>Cc: </b>dcouncil@jlab.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 8, 2016 5:25:39 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Dcouncil] How to proceed with this incident?<br></div><br><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div class="moz-cite-prefix">Andrew, Rolf<br>
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I talked to Anna today, and I learned that this was not an
isolated incident and that<br>
there has been similar instances. It is quite possible that the
specific incident evolved just the<br>
way you describe it, but the overall response of other operators
and supervisors sounded a bit dismissive.<br>
I am not advocating going to any warpath but follow up seems in
order.<br>
I have been for years on shift in (another) control room and it is
not always an easy environment.<br>
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Fulvia<br>
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On 11/8/16 5:11 PM, Andrew Hutton wrote:<br>
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<div class="">At Monday’s MCC meeting, I made an impassioned plea
for mutual respect regardless of differences, using this
complaint as the pretext . Today, I was approached by the tech
involved in this incident. He had been asked by Shawn Frierson,
one of the other operators on shift, to get some information.
He phoned back in to the control room and Anna answered the
phone. He asked for Shawn three times by name until Anna passed
the call to the crew chief. Apparently the tech asked for
“Shawn” in a strong southern accent, and Anna (who is Russian
and has a different accent) heard “man.” </div>
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<div class="">I know the tech well; he has frequently volunteered
to mentor women students and I do not believe that he had any
intention of insulting Anna. I asked him to go and apologize to
Anna and explain what had happened. He was more than willing to
do that; he has interacted often with Anna and has a high regard
for her abilities. </div>
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<div class="">As for me. I do not regret going on the warpath.
Many people have come up to me and thanked me for sending a
clear message in support of treating all our coworkers with
respect. This included several minorities and one who is gay.
They needed more than anyone else to know that management takes
a strong stand on the issue. </div>
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<div class="">Perhaps the Diversity Council should find a way to
be more vocal? </div>
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<div class="">On Nov 4, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Fulvia Pilat <<a href="mailto:pilat@jlab.org" class="" target="_blank">pilat@jlab.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p class="">Andrew</p>
Anna is not the only one to be livid. The D&I
Council will follow up on this but I think Accelerator
Division should too.<br class="">
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Let me know how you suggest we proceed. Rolf agrees with
that.<br class="">
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Fulvia<br class="">
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<div class="">Dear Anna,<br class="">
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<div class="">I think you did the right thing
putting this forward to us. Let us ponder and<br class="">
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later. Obviously, it is our job as D&I<br class="">
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behavior is not accepted, you are<br class="">
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knowledge and expertise to answer such<br class="">
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some other (male) operator.<br class="">
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<div class="">It is understandable that you are
livid.<br class="">
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<div class="">Bear with us, we will come back to
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<b class="">Subject: </b>[Dcouncil] How to
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<div class="">Hello, <br class="">
I am senior female operator, I just had yet
another encounter in the control room, which left
me offended and, to be honest, livid. I want to do
something about it, but I am not sure what. I
would like to get your opinion on this. <br class="">
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I am on shift and stamped in today, my crew chief
and another operator are both male. A support
technician called, I picked up the phone. He asked
to talk to the male operator, and I asked if it is
something I can help him with. He said no, he just
wanted to tell another operator something. I
transferred his call. Turned out this tech was
informing us about a trivial, every day thing we
all are qualified to deal with. I was more than
capable of handling information he had, however,
tech insisted on talking to the male operator. I
would understand if that tech asked for a crew
chief or for an operator who paged him, or if he
worked on a specific issue with someone and wanted
a follow-up... but this time nobody paged him, the
info he had was generic, no reason not to talk to
me. <br class="">
This is not the first time it happened both with
this person and some others. I never had a chance
to confront them, because it is always on the
phone and I find out the reason for their call
afterwards. It would be weird if I called them
back to complain, I think. Besides, I still will
have work with these people and I don't want to
start an open war. <br class="">
I am not sure what I should do. I wrote that tech
an email, but didn't send it yet... What can you
suggest? <br class="">
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A second issue I have is when I brought up similar
incidents in front of some other male operators
and supervisors, they either laughed it off or
dismissed by finding an excuse for such
behavior("oh, it's just (tech), he didn't mean
it"). This is also not right. If the technician
didn't mean he doesn't want to talk to a woman, he
should have asked for a crew chief, explained why
he needs to talk to that specific male operator or
just talk to an woman who answered the phone. Just
like majority of people here do. <br class="">
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Thank you!<br class="">
I hope I was not too confusing trying to keep
identities out of the email.<br class="">
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Best regards, <br class="">
Anna Solopova<br class="">
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