<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Rolf, Fulvia<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would like the opportunity to participate in these discussions. The fact that Anna jumped to the conclusion that she was being insulted is a strong indicator that she believes that the climate in the lab is such that this behavior would be considered acceptable. That is a pretty damning indictment of management and staff at all levels. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In my opinion, that is why it is vital that a strong coherent message be sent to everyone in the lab that any kind of discrimination is unacceptable; something that I do not believe has been done. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Andrew</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 8, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Rolf Ent <<a href="mailto:ent@jlab.org" class="">ent@jlab.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__" class=""><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><div class="">Dear Andrew,<br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="">Respectfully, I disagree with your mail. If one reads Anna's report it is not just a<br class=""></div><div class="">case of strong southern accents and a person who has english as second language.<br class=""></div><div class="">In her report, Anna clearly states beyond that her side of the story of the incident<br class=""></div><div class="">is different that this was not the first time this happened, and she also referred to<br class=""></div><div class="">a second, that in my eyes could be equally serious, issue.<br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="">I think we should first look more into the matter before dismissing.<br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="">Of course, your help and willingness to make an impassioned plea for mutual<br class=""></div><div class="">respect regardless of differences is much appreciated, not only by me but it<br class=""></div><div class="">sounds like by many others too. And I do agree we can/should become more<br class=""></div><div class="">vocal. Nonetheless, in the spirit of integrated diversity management and also</div><div class="">because we owe it to Anna, it is as we do with safety incidents, we should do</div><div class="">some due diligence.<br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="">Best regards, Rolf<br class=""></div><br class=""><hr id="zwchr" class=""><div class=""><b class="">From: </b>"Andrew Hutton" <<a href="mailto:andrew@jlab.org" class="">andrew@jlab.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">To: </b>"Fulvia Pilat" <<a href="mailto:pilat@jlab.org" class="">pilat@jlab.org</a>>, "Rolf Ent" <<a href="mailto:ent@jlab.org" class="">ent@jlab.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc: </b><a href="mailto:dcouncil@jlab.org" class="">dcouncil@jlab.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 8, 2016 5:11:56 PM<br class=""><b class="">Subject: </b>Re: [Dcouncil] How to proceed with this incident?<br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="">Fulvia, Rolf<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">At Monday’s MCC meeting, I made an impassioned plea for mutual respect regardless of differences, using this complaint as the pretext . Today, I was approached by the tech involved in this incident. He had been asked by Shawn Frierson, one of the other operators on shift, to get some information. He phoned back in to the control room and Anna answered the phone. He asked for Shawn three times by name until Anna passed the call to the crew chief. Apparently the tech asked for “Shawn” in a strong southern accent, and Anna (who is Russian and has a different accent) heard “man.” </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I know the tech well; he has frequently volunteered to mentor women students and I do not believe that he had any intention of insulting Anna. I asked him to go and apologize to Anna and explain what had happened. He was more than willing to do that; he has interacted often with Anna and has a high regard for her abilities. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As for me. I do not regret going on the warpath. Many people have come up to me and thanked me for sending a clear message in support of treating all our coworkers with respect. This included several minorities and one who is gay. They needed more than anyone else to know that management takes a strong stand on the issue. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Perhaps the Diversity Council should find a way to be more vocal? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Andrew</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote class=""><div class="">On Nov 4, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Fulvia Pilat <<a href="mailto:pilat@jlab.org" class="" target="_blank">pilat@jlab.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
<div class=""><p class="">Andrew</p>
Anna is not the only one to be livid. The D&I Council will
follow up on this but I think Accelerator Division should too.<br class="">
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Let me know how you suggest we proceed. Rolf agrees with that.<br class="">
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Fulvia<br class=""><p class=""><br class="">
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<div class="">I think you did the right thing putting this forward to us.
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<div class="">It is understandable that you are livid.<br class="">
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<div class="">Hello, <br class="">
I am senior female operator, I just had yet another encounter
in the control room, which left me offended and, to be honest,
livid. I want to do something about it, but I am not sure
what. I would like to get your opinion on this. <br class="">
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I am on shift and stamped in today, my crew chief and another
operator are both male. A support technician called, I picked
up the phone. He asked to talk to the male operator, and I
asked if it is something I can help him with. He said no, he
just wanted to tell another operator something. I transferred
his call. Turned out this tech was informing us about a
trivial, every day thing we all are qualified to deal with. I
was more than capable of handling information he had, however,
tech insisted on talking to the male operator. I would
understand if that tech asked for a crew chief or for an
operator who paged him, or if he worked on a specific issue
with someone and wanted a follow-up... but this time nobody
paged him, the info he had was generic, no reason not to talk
to me. <br class="">
This is not the first time it happened both with this person
and some others. I never had a chance to confront them,
because it is always on the phone and I find out the reason
for their call afterwards. It would be weird if I called them
back to complain, I think. Besides, I still will have work
with these people and I don't want to start an open war. <br class="">
I am not sure what I should do. I wrote that tech an email,
but didn't send it yet... What can you suggest? <br class="">
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A second issue I have is when I brought up similar incidents
in front of some other male operators and supervisors, they
either laughed it off or dismissed by finding an excuse for
such behavior("oh, it's just (tech), he didn't mean it"). This
is also not right. If the technician didn't mean he doesn't
want to talk to a woman, he should have asked for a crew
chief, explained why he needs to talk to that specific male
operator or just talk to an woman who answered the phone. Just
like majority of people here do. <br class="">
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Thank you!<br class="">
I hope I was not too confusing trying to keep identities out
of the email.<br class="">
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Best regards, <br class="">
Anna Solopova<br class="">
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