[Dsg-ft] [dsg-svt] [Dsg-mvt] [Dsg-rich] space in back of EEL 125

Patrizia Rossi rossi at jlab.org
Mon Sep 25 20:24:06 EDT 2017 

OK, thanks
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> On 25/set/2017, at 20:20, Walt Akers / JLAB <akers at jlab.org> wrote:
> 
> I'll see if I can get together with Amrit, Youri and their folks in
> the morning and see if we can come to an accord.  I'll update you
> in the afternoon...
> 
> Walt
> 
> Patrizia Rossi wrote:
>> Dear Walt,
>> 
>> tomorrow morning Stepan and I are busy with the Hall B science readiness review.
>> I can be available after 2.30 pm (at 1.30 pm I have the Hall A meeting) but I don’t know about Stepan.
>> 
>> patrizia
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>> 
>> 
>>> On 25/set/2017, at 20:12, Walt Akers / JLAB <akers at jlab.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good evening all...
>>> 
>>> Sadly, I spent most of my afternoon programming, so I didn't
>>> engage this until a few minutes ago.  Needless to say, I believe
>>> we can resolve the space issues with a minimal amount of fuss
>>> if we get together and work through the issues.
>>> 
>>> Let me speak with Patrizia and Stepan tomorrow and see if they
>>> have some time to join us tomorrow morning and we'll decide
>>> what the best approach is to keep everyone on schedule and,
>>> perhaps, tidying things up a bit.
>>> 
>>> Walt
>>> 
>>> Marco Contalbrigo wrote:
>>>> Dear Amrit,
>>>> let me try to summarize my present understanding about
>>>> EEL-125 use.
>>>> 
>>>> Space: RICH assembling would likely need more space than
>>>> expected due to the complex procedure and several
>>>> delicate elements. However, looking at the screenshot
>>>> of Bob Miller, I realized the SVT+MM system will be
>>>> moved out of the clean room at the end of October.
>>>> This will free the space in time for the most critical
>>>> activity (aerogel assembling). To remove unnecessary
>>>> stuff or re-organize part of the services (i.e. tables)
>>>> might solve the issue without the need of moving
>>>> the SVT+MM in advance.
>>>> 
>>>> Clean: the RICH group has always scheduled a cleanup
>>>> action between the tasks to be performed before
>>>> the critical element assembling. This cleanup
>>>> has not been very well defined yet but the actions
>>>> Yuri is listing are all going in the same direction.
>>>> I am in favor of them. Who should do what has
>>>> to be agreeded, and RICH will cover his part by sure.
>>>> 
>>>> Of course, I might not have all the details under
>>>> control and I am at disposal to further discuss the
>>>> above points in order to reach a practical agreement.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards, Marco.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Amrit Yegneswaran wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> your understanding of the situation is meager, at best unsatisfactory!
>>>>> but that's ok
>>>>> not 2 years ago you were doing the kazatsky to maintain the clean room.
>>>>> hallb engineering, you , and dsg were supposed to take turns keeping the clean room
>>>>> clean.
>>>>> we had a meeting with patrizia.
>>>>> george wrote up command orders.
>>>>> dsg even hired a person to keep the room clean.
>>>>> she still cleans the place.
>>>>> but to the best of my knowledge, neither you, nor hallb engineering, nor the mvt
>>>>> crew etc etc who use the room did diddly squat of cleaning.
>>>>> capire!
>>>>> 
>>>>> be it known to all that dsg is not the local janitorial group.
>>>>> do what you preach.
>>>>> organize a group to do all the things you are suggesting, participate. go ahead
>>>>> make my day.
>>>>> the guys who made the mess should be the guys who should be cleaning the mess,
>>>>> isn't that so?
>>>>> 
>>>>> having said this, if you continue knowingly or unknowingly (ignorance is no excuse)
>>>>> on this track, you'll not only upset me but the entire dsg group, including brian!
>>>>> think about it. that kid has iron in his soul.
>>>>> 
>>>>> the tzar's era ended long ago son!
>>>>> so, knock it off
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>> From: "Yuri Gotra" <gotra at jlab.org>
>>>>> To: "Amrit Yegneswaran" <yeg at jlab.org>
>>>>> Cc: "dsg-rich" <dsg-rich at jlab.org>, "dsg-svt" <dsg-svt at jlab.org>, "rmiller"
>>>>> <rmiller at jlab.org>, "Maxime Defurne" <mdefurne at jlab.org>, "Patrizia Rossi"
>>>>> <rossi at jlab.org>, "Volker Burkert" <burkert at jlab.org>, dsg-mvt at jlab.org,
>>>>> dsg-ft at jlab.org, "Franck Sabatié" <fsabatie at gmail.com>, "Walt Akers"
>>>>> <akers at jlab.org>, "Marco Contalbrigo" <mcontalb at fe.infn.it>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 5:38:56 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-svt] [Dsg-mvt] [Dsg-rich] space in back of EEL 125
>>>>> 
>>>>> My understanding is that the question for RICH assembly is more related to the
>>>>> condition of the clean room rather than the lack of space. In any case there are
>>>>> some actions which could benefit both.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is what could be done:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - remove items being stored in EEL124 which are not related to CLAS12 commissioning
>>>>> activity ongoing in EEL124 (this would provide extra space and make the room
>>>>> cleaner)
>>>>> 
>>>>> - enforce the clean room rules (gowning, moving items to the clean room, etc.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> - clean the gowning area and replace the sticky mats (the present lat mat is ugly
>>>>> and violates the rules)
>>>>> 
>>>>> - put patches on the broken floor epoxy coating (walking on the broken coating
>>>>> generates dust)
>>>>> 
>>>>> - vacuum clean the floor and the top of the remaining cabinets
>>>>> 
>>>>> - check the status of the EEL124 dust monitor
>>>>> 
>>>>> - consider building the canopy over the RICH (check with Youri Sharabian whether he
>>>>> could provide his HTCC clean room parts)
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are 2 weeks after the scheduled moving of the CVT to the hall (October 30)
>>>>> when RICH will be the only user of the clean room.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/25/17 3:15 PM, Yuri Gotra wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>      We did not receive any request from RICH group that they need
>>>>>      additional space. Per prior agreement with RICH group and Walt the CVT
>>>>>      will stay in EEL124 till it will be moved to the hall. Small (SVT)
>>>>>      clean room was made available for RICH assembly. I will check with
>>>>>      Marco.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>      On 9/25/17 3:05 PM, Amrit Yegneswaran wrote:
>>>>>      we are looking at a new chapter on how to proceed, given the
>>>>>      delay.
>>>>> not a re-iteration of the old schedule.
>>>>> in the end, if appropriate and reasonable changes aren't implemented
>>>>> one shouldn't be surprised at the outcome.
>>>>> 
>>>>> RICH needs clean room space at the back where the SVT/MVT is to
>>>>> assemble the aerogel/the mirrors etc.
>>>>> the svt/mvt doesn't need clean room space for cosmic data, am i wrong?
>>>>> anyway, mine is only to suggest how to run things smoothly as i see it,
>>>>> not enforce it.
>>>>> klaro!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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