<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear Walt,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">tomorrow morning Stepan and I are busy with the Hall B science readiness review.</div><div class="">I can be available after 2.30 pm (at 1.30 pm I have the Hall A meeting) but I don’t know about Stepan.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">patrizia</div><div class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 25/set/2017, at 20:12, Walt Akers / JLAB <<a href="mailto:akers@jlab.org" class="">akers@jlab.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">Good evening all...<br class=""><br class="">Sadly, I spent most of my afternoon programming, so I didn't<br class="">engage this until a few minutes ago. Needless to say, I believe<br class="">we can resolve the space issues with a minimal amount of fuss<br class="">if we get together and work through the issues.<br class=""><br class="">Let me speak with Patrizia and Stepan tomorrow and see if they<br class="">have some time to join us tomorrow morning and we'll decide<br class="">what the best approach is to keep everyone on schedule and,<br class="">perhaps, tidying things up a bit.<br class=""><br class="">Walt<br class=""><br class="">Marco Contalbrigo wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Dear Amrit,<br class="">let me try to summarize my present understanding about<br class="">EEL-125 use.<br class=""><br class="">Space: RICH assembling would likely need more space than<br class="">expected due to the complex procedure and several<br class="">delicate elements. However, looking at the screenshot<br class="">of Bob Miller, I realized the SVT+MM system will be<br class="">moved out of the clean room at the end of October.<br class="">This will free the space in time for the most critical<br class="">activity (aerogel assembling). To remove unnecessary<br class="">stuff or re-organize part of the services (i.e. tables)<br class="">might solve the issue without the need of moving<br class="">the SVT+MM in advance.<br class=""><br class="">Clean: the RICH group has always scheduled a cleanup<br class="">action between the tasks to be performed before<br class="">the critical element assembling. This cleanup<br class="">has not been very well defined yet but the actions<br class="">Yuri is listing are all going in the same direction.<br class="">I am in favor of them. Who should do what has<br class="">to be agreeded, and RICH will cover his part by sure.<br class=""><br class="">Of course, I might not have all the details under<br class="">control and I am at disposal to further discuss the<br class="">above points in order to reach a practical agreement.<br class=""><br class="">Best regards, Marco.<br class=""><br class="">On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Amrit Yegneswaran wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">your understanding of the situation is meager, at best unsatisfactory!<br class="">but that's ok<br class="">not 2 years ago you were doing the kazatsky to maintain the clean room.<br class="">hallb engineering, you , and dsg were supposed to take turns keeping the clean room<br class="">clean.<br class="">we had a meeting with patrizia.<br class="">george wrote up command orders.<br class="">dsg even hired a person to keep the room clean.<br class="">she still cleans the place.<br class="">but to the best of my knowledge, neither you, nor hallb engineering, nor the mvt<br class="">crew etc etc who use the room did diddly squat of cleaning.<br class="">capire!<br class=""><br class="">be it known to all that dsg is not the local janitorial group.<br class="">do what you preach.<br class="">organize a group to do all the things you are suggesting, participate. go ahead<br class="">make my day.<br class="">the guys who made the mess should be the guys who should be cleaning the mess,<br class="">isn't that so?<br class=""><br class="">having said this, if you continue knowingly or unknowingly (ignorance is no excuse)<br class="">on this track, you'll not only upset me but the entire dsg group, including brian!<br class="">think about it. that kid has iron in his soul.<br class=""><br class="">the tzar's era ended long ago son!<br class="">so, knock it off<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">___________________________________________________________________________________ <br class="">From: "Yuri Gotra" <<a href="mailto:gotra@jlab.org" class="">gotra@jlab.org</a>><br class="">To: "Amrit Yegneswaran" <<a href="mailto:yeg@jlab.org" class="">yeg@jlab.org</a>><br class="">Cc: "dsg-rich" <<a href="mailto:dsg-rich@jlab.org" class="">dsg-rich@jlab.org</a>>, "dsg-svt" <<a href="mailto:dsg-svt@jlab.org" class="">dsg-svt@jlab.org</a>>, "rmiller"<br class=""><<a href="mailto:rmiller@jlab.org" class="">rmiller@jlab.org</a>>, "Maxime Defurne" <<a href="mailto:mdefurne@jlab.org" class="">mdefurne@jlab.org</a>>, "Patrizia Rossi"<br class=""><<a href="mailto:rossi@jlab.org" class="">rossi@jlab.org</a>>, "Volker Burkert" <<a href="mailto:burkert@jlab.org" class="">burkert@jlab.org</a>>, <a href="mailto:dsg-mvt@jlab.org" class="">dsg-mvt@jlab.org</a>,<br class=""><a href="mailto:dsg-ft@jlab.org" class="">dsg-ft@jlab.org</a>, "Franck Sabatié" <<a href="mailto:fsabatie@gmail.com" class="">fsabatie@gmail.com</a>>, "Walt Akers"<br class=""><<a href="mailto:akers@jlab.org" class="">akers@jlab.org</a>>, "Marco Contalbrigo" <<a href="mailto:mcontalb@fe.infn.it" class="">mcontalb@fe.infn.it</a>><br class="">Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 5:38:56 PM<br class="">Subject: Re: [dsg-svt] [Dsg-mvt] [Dsg-rich] space in back of EEL 125<br class=""><br class="">My understanding is that the question for RICH assembly is more related to the<br class="">condition of the clean room rather than the lack of space. In any case there are<br class="">some actions which could benefit both.<br class=""><br class="">Here is what could be done:<br class=""><br class="">- remove items being stored in EEL124 which are not related to CLAS12 commissioning<br class="">activity ongoing in EEL124 (this would provide extra space and make the room<br class="">cleaner)<br class=""><br class="">- enforce the clean room rules (gowning, moving items to the clean room, etc.)<br class=""><br class="">- clean the gowning area and replace the sticky mats (the present lat mat is ugly<br class="">and violates the rules)<br class=""><br class="">- put patches on the broken floor epoxy coating (walking on the broken coating<br class="">generates dust)<br class=""><br class="">- vacuum clean the floor and the top of the remaining cabinets<br class=""><br class="">- check the status of the EEL124 dust monitor<br class=""><br class="">- consider building the canopy over the RICH (check with Youri Sharabian whether he<br class="">could provide his HTCC clean room parts)<br class=""><br class="">There are 2 weeks after the scheduled moving of the CVT to the hall (October 30)<br class="">when RICH will be the only user of the clean room.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 9/25/17 3:15 PM, Yuri Gotra wrote:<br class=""><br class=""> We did not receive any request from RICH group that they need<br class=""> additional space. Per prior agreement with RICH group and Walt the CVT<br class=""> will stay in EEL124 till it will be moved to the hall. Small (SVT)<br class=""> clean room was made available for RICH assembly. I will check with<br class=""> Marco.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> On 9/25/17 3:05 PM, Amrit Yegneswaran wrote:<br class=""> we are looking at a new chapter on how to proceed, given the<br class=""> delay.<br class="">not a re-iteration of the old schedule.<br class="">in the end, if appropriate and reasonable changes aren't implemented<br class="">one shouldn't be surprised at the outcome.<br class=""><br class="">RICH needs clean room space at the back where the SVT/MVT is to<br class="">assemble the aerogel/the mirrors etc.<br class="">the svt/mvt doesn't need clean room space for cosmic data, am i wrong?<br class="">anyway, mine is only to suggest how to run things smoothly as i see it,<br class="">not enforce it.<br class="">klaro!<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">dsg-svt mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:dsg-svt@jlab.org" class="">dsg-svt@jlab.org</a><br class="">https://mailman.jlab.org/mailman/listinfo/dsg-svt<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>