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<p>Hi Max,</p>
<p>I am not recommending the use of c4h10 in the new mfc until I can
prove the old one can be dried out or we get a new one, it is the
spare and we don't have another in that range. Tomorrow I'll
submit an order for a replacement. <br>
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<p>The liquid had to be isobutane, it evaporated as it was exposed
to air. Todd is looking into improvements to the thermal tape.
Isobutane needs to be above 70F to keep it from condensing. Todd
also may be able to set up a test for mixing Ar/C4H10. But the
owner/da may have to look into that first.<br>
</p>
<p>Marc<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/14/2017 4:46 PM, mdefurne wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Marc,</p>
<p>Just for curiosity, when will you try the death test, the test
with isobutane? :P<br>
I am also very curious about this fluid seen by Todd. Liquid
isobutane? Unlikely considering the temperature of the MFC, no?<br>
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<p>Thanks again for investigating this issue.</p>
<p>Max<br>
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<p>We purged the mix 2 C4H10 mass flow controller with
Argon this morning (venting to atmosphere). During the
disconnection Todd saw a small amount of liquid drain
from the mfc. It responded to flow set points
routinely above 150sccm. Below that value the flow was
between 90 - 100sccm, with the internal valve in the
closed position. The mfc was then zeroed by the
manufactures procedure, which specifies that is
isolated from flow. The procedure went as standard,
however once the Argon supply was opened, the
~90-100sccm flow returned. Proper operation below
150sccm was not achieved.</p>
<p>The gas pad temperature reading was > 50F. The RTD
was being read from inside the enclosure. The MFC
temperature reading was ~32C. Both of the reading were
within operating specs for the mfc.</p>
<p>Around 1pm we swapped it out for the spare, which
tested perfectly in the lab.</p>
<p>Once online we were able to flow Argon to the mfc low
limit of 13.9sccm at the set full scale (1390sccm).
Even a little below that, the mfc did not become
unstable until < 10sccm. We then ran the mix 2
system with both mfcs, still venting to atmosphere.
Again no issues with either mfc, as long as the C4H10
mfc set point was > 10sccm.</p>
<p>Tomorrow I will test the bad mfc in the lab to see if
I can dry it out with either N2 or Ar.</p>
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