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<p>thanks</p>
<p>Will let you know if there are any more questions today<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/27/2017 11:52 AM, Marc McMullen
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<p>The detector rotates around a pivot, so the winch and pulley
only pulls on a portion of the detector weight. The calculations
have the load at 775Kg. </p>
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<p>What is the weight (load) of what you are trying to lift?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/24/2017 10:38 AM, Marc
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<p>Hi Rusty,</p>
<p>Tyler is referring to TOSP 64632 (Assembly of the RICH
detector) . You returned that one to me pending a 125% load
test.</p>
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href="https://mis.jlab.org/mis/apps/mis_forms/operational_safety_procedure_form.cfm?entry_id=64632">https://mis.jlab.org/mis/apps/mis_forms/operational_safety_procedure_form.cfm?entry_id=64632</a><br>
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<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Marc<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/24/2017 10:06 AM, Tyler
Lemon wrote:<br>
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<div>Hello,<br>
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<br>
<div>Bob Miller (emails below in blue) has stated in
Email #2 below that the winch to be used for RICH
rotation during assembly "<span style="color: rgb(0,
0, 0);" data-mce-style="color: #000000;">is not an
under hook lifting device, so it does not require
a JLab load test." The winch has been used to
assemble the structure in Italy (Email #3 from
Sandro). </span></div>
<div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #000000;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #000000;">We would like
this matter (load testing) to be resolved between
Rusty Sprouse and Bob Miller as soon as possible.
We would like to have the TOSP as soon as possible
so that we have no delay in proceeding with RICH
construction when INFN collaborators arrive at
JLab <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #000000;"> on March 6,
2017</span>.</span><br>
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<div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #000000;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #000000;">Best regards,<br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #000000;">Tyler<br>
</span></div>
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<div><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>EMAIL #1</strong></span><br>
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<div><strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">From: "Mirazita
Marco" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:Marco.Mirazita@lnf.infn.it"><Marco.Mirazita@lnf.infn.it></a></span></strong><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;"><b>To: </b>"dsg-rich"
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dsg-rich@jlab.org"><dsg-rich@jlab.org></a></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;"><b>Sent: </b>Friday,
February 24, 2017 7:45:31 AM</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;"><b>Subject: </b>[Dsg-rich]
Fwd: Re: Fwd: winch rating for RICH assembly</span><br>
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<div><span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">Hi all,</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">as you can see we
don't need a new winch and we don't need to do any
</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">load test.</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">Best regards,</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">Marco</span><br>
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<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>EMAIL #2</strong></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">--------
Messaggio originale --------</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Oggetto: Re: Fwd:
winch rating for RICH assembly</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Data: 2017-02-24
13:10</span><br>
<strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Mittente: Bob
Miller <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:rmiller@jlab.org"><rmiller@jlab.org></a></span></strong><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Destinatario:
Tomassini Sandro <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:sandro.tomassini@lnf.infn.it"><sandro.tomassini@lnf.infn.it></a></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Cc: Dario
Orecchini <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dario.orecchini@googlemail.com"><dario.orecchini@googlemail.com></a>,
Marco Mirazita </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:Marco.Mirazita@lnf.infn.it"><Marco.Mirazita@lnf.infn.it></a></span><br>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Hi Sandro,</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">This is not an
under hook lifting device, so it does not require
a JLab</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">load test. If
you are comfortable using it, then we do not need
to do a</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">load test.</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Regards,</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Bob</span><br>
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<div><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>EMAIL #3</strong></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">On 2/23/2017 3:32
PM, <strong>Tomassini Sandro</strong> wrote:</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">Hi Bob,</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">yes, the
structure was assembled and used to assemble the
RICH at the</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">Company that
built everything.</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">Sandro</span><br>
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<div><strong><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>EMAIL
#4</strong></span></strong><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Il 23/02/2017
21:27,<strong> Bob Miller</strong> ha scritto:</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Hi Sandro,</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, I think we
will need a fixture to load test the structure.</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Has this
structure been assembled and used already?</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Thanks,</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Bob</span><br>
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<div><strong><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>EMAIL
#5</strong></span></strong><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">On 2/23/2017 3:22
PM, <strong>Tomassini Sandro</strong> wrote:</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">Hi Bob,</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">unfortunately I
do not have any plan and any tool ready.</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">I envisage that
we/you have to build a beam (steel extrusion) to</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">connect to the
pivoting part and with an eye bolt on the other
side</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">and in the middle
a hole to attach 1250 kg at about the RICH</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">barycenter. See
Sketch below.</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">I think this is
the more realistic way to load correctly the</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">structure.</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">I do not have any
drawing of the tool I mentioned but we can try to</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">make a fast
sketch and you should produce at Jlab.</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">I do not know if
you have a better solution.</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">If you agree
Dario or me can design it and you build it in US.</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">Let me know</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #008000;">Sandro</span><br>
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<div><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>EMAIL #6</strong></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Il 23/02/2017
18:51, <strong>Bob Miller</strong> ha scritto:</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Hi Sandro,</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">I am being asked
to load test the RICH assembly structure. Do you</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">have a plan or
any tooling for how to load test this structure?
It</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">looks like we
would need some kind of tool to take the place of
the</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">RICH box to apply
the load to the structure.</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Regards,</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"
data-mce-style="color: #0000ff;">Bob</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;"></span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;"><span
style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"
data-mce-style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>EMAIL
#7</strong></span></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">FROM:</span><br>
<strong><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">Tyler Lemon <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:tlemon@jlab.org"><tlemon@jlab.org></a></span></strong></div>
<div><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;"> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">TO:</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;"> Bob Miller <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:rmiller@jlab.org"><rmiller@jlab.org></a>,
Mirazita Marco</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:marco.mirazita@lnf.infn.it"><marco.mirazita@lnf.infn.it></a>,
dsg-rich <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dsg-rich@jlab.org"><dsg-rich@jlab.org></a></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;"> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">CC:</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">Patrizia Rossi <a
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class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:rossi@jlab.org"><rossi@jlab.org></a></span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">Hello Bob,</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;"> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">Please find
attached slides from Marco Mirazita showing
calculations</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">for the planned
rotation of RICH after the assembly of the
detector</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">shell.</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">The GR1000 winch
(image of load specifications also attached), is</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">rated for 1000
kg. Rusty Sprouse has not approved the load test
at</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">1,250 kg due to
the 1000 kg rating of the GR1000 winch.</span><br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">However, it has
been calculated that the maximum load exerted on
the</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">winch will be
~775 kg. Please let us know whether the rating of
the</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">GR1000 winch is
adequate for the rotation of RICH using the lift</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">procedure as
shown in the slides. If it is not, we will find
another</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">solution.</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;"> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">Best regards,</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;"> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;">Tyler</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;"> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"
data-mce-style="color: #333399;"> --</span></div>
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