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<p>Thanks Tom<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/6/2017 2:54 PM, Tom Renzo wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Marc,<br>
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Checked lifting device per ASME BTH-1. Device is good for 1500
kg.<br>
Calcs are attached. I have assumed the Tube 100mm x 100mm x 5mm
will be fabricated from <br>
HSS 4x4x3/16" ASTM A500 steel. Also have assumed the Tube 80mm
x 80mm x 4mm will be <br>
HSS 3x3x3/16" ASTM A500 steel.<br>
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Let me know if you need anything else on this. Thanks,<br>
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Tom<br>
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On 4/4/2017 11:43 AM, Marc McMullen wrote:<br>
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<p>Suresh,</p>
<p>I believe the max load would be 1500Kg (includes the loaded
detector and the stiffener), and I think the load test would
be 125%.</p>
<p>Marc<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/4/2017 11:23 AM, Suresh
Chandra wrote:<br>
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<p>Marc,</p>
<p>What is maximum load that the device is to lift & for
what load the load test is planned? <br>
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<p>Suresh<br>
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<p>Hi Rusty and Suresh,</p>
<p>Our collaborators from INFN (Italy) are having an "under
the hook lifting device" fabricated here in the US at one
of the Jlab procurement approved welder/fab shops. Below
is the information I got from the EH&S manual on
requirements for a device to be used here at the lab. <br>
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<p>Due to cost, they will probably have the load test done
by Hall B Mechanical/Engineering and I have asked them to
have the final design reviewed by Bob Miller to make sure
that the design passes Jlab standards. <br>
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<p>Is there anything else which would need to be done that I
might be overlooking?</p>
<p>I have attached the .pdf of the preliminary files INFN
used for RFQs.<br>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Marc<br>
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<p>Marco,</p>
<p>I am not sure if you are going to wait for any further
quotes before going forward with the selection. But,
when you ask the vendor to "re-quote" to satisfy your
requirements, the vendor will need specific details
about information/documentation you need in your final
quote (Or they will just send the same quote). <br>
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<p>Doug has provided some information to help us fulfill
some of the Jlab requirements for approved use at JLab.
In his email, he is referring to specifications that
need to be followed by the designer and fabrication
shop:</p>
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<li>The shop was selected from the Jlab approved
fabricators list for welding/brazing.<br>
</li>
<li>A qualified Professional Engineer (PE) must
approve/design the "Below The Hook Lifting Device" in
accordance with <span>ASME B30.20, ASME BTH-1</span>.</li>
<ul>
<li>When requesting the requote you should ensure that
the fabrication shop meets these criteria</li>
<li>You may want a JLab PE to review the drawing,
prior to manufacturing.</li>
<ul>
<li>Bob may be able to review (If he has not already
done it) this if you can provide him with the
final drawings (after parts have been converted
from metric components to the closest English
standard)<br>
</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<li>The fabrication shop must label the device with the
following information:</li>
<ul>
<li>Manufacturer's Name</li>
<li>Manufacturer's Address</li>
<li>Serial Number</li>
<li>Lifter Weight, if over 100lbs (45Kg)</li>
<li>Rated Load<br>
</li>
</ul>
<li>We will need to do a load test at Jlab or the shop
will have to do it and label it as such. <br>
</li>
<ul>
<li>We should ask the fabrication shop how much this
would cost, maybe it is not expensive.</li>
<li>Hall B is qualified to do this test</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<p>I will try to find out if there are other requirements
or documentation needed for the stiffener.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Marc<br>
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<pre wrap="">Not if it is done by a PE. It will need all the under hook paperwork
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Hi Doug,
So far all we have done is contacted fab shops for quotes. We asked Bob for advice on getting a better price, and are following his suggestion, he also suggested having the load test done here at the lab, should CE be contacted prior to manufacturing?
Thanks,
Marc
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<pre wrap="">On 3/31/2017 2:08 PM, Douglas Tilles wrote:
I guess you have contacted Civil Eng about a Under Hook Device review and inspection and load testing?
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