<html><body><div style="font-family: tahoma,new york,times,serif; font-size: 14pt; color: #009900"><div>walt,<br></div><div>thanks for coming up with a plan.<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>but please don't be euphemistic, that place is a pigsty!<span id="transmark" style="display: none; width: 0px; height: 0px;"></span>not an assembly/detector building area.<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>now if only dr. rossi gives me the permission....i've no problems being Sgt Donny Donowitz (Inglourius Basterds)<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>amrit<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Walt Akers / JLAB" <akers@jlab.org><br><b>To: </b>"Marco Contalbrigo" <mcontalb@fe.infn.it>, "Amrit Yegneswaran" <yeg@jlab.org><br><b>Cc: </b>"Yuri Gotra" <gotra@jlab.org>, "dsg-rich" <dsg-rich@jlab.org>, "dsg-svt" <dsg-svt@jlab.org>, "rmiller" <rmiller@jlab.org>, "Maxime Defurne" <mdefurne@jlab.org>, "Patrizia Rossi" <rossi@jlab.org>, "Volker Burkert" <burkert@jlab.org>, dsg-mvt@jlab.org, dsg-ft@jlab.org, "Franck Sabatié" <fsabatie@gmail.com>, "Stepan Stepanyan" <stepanya@jlab.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, September 25, 2017 8:12:27 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [dsg-svt] [Dsg-mvt] [Dsg-rich] space in back of EEL 125<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__">Good evening all...<br><br>Sadly, I spent most of my afternoon programming, so I didn't<br>engage this until a few minutes ago. Needless to say, I believe<br>we can resolve the space issues with a minimal amount of fuss<br>if we get together and work through the issues.<br><br>Let me speak with Patrizia and Stepan tomorrow and see if they<br>have some time to join us tomorrow morning and we'll decide<br>what the best approach is to keep everyone on schedule and,<br>perhaps, tidying things up a bit.<br><br>Walt<br><br>Marco Contalbrigo wrote:<br>> Dear Amrit,<br>> let me try to summarize my present understanding about<br>> EEL-125 use.<br>><br>> Space: RICH assembling would likely need more space than<br>> expected due to the complex procedure and several<br>> delicate elements. However, looking at the screenshot<br>> of Bob Miller, I realized the SVT+MM system will be<br>> moved out of the clean room at the end of October.<br>> This will free the space in time for the most critical<br>> activity (aerogel assembling). To remove unnecessary<br>> stuff or re-organize part of the services (i.e. tables)<br>> might solve the issue without the need of moving<br>> the SVT+MM in advance.<br>><br>> Clean: the RICH group has always scheduled a cleanup<br>> action between the tasks to be performed before<br>> the critical element assembling. This cleanup<br>> has not been very well defined yet but the actions<br>> Yuri is listing are all going in the same direction.<br>> I am in favor of them. Who should do what has<br>> to be agreeded, and RICH will cover his part by sure.<br>><br>> Of course, I might not have all the details under<br>> control and I am at disposal to further discuss the<br>> above points in order to reach a practical agreement.<br>><br>> Best regards, Marco.<br>><br>> On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Amrit Yegneswaran wrote:<br>><br>>><br>>> your understanding of the situation is meager, at best unsatisfactory!<br>>> but that's ok<br>>> not 2 years ago you were doing the kazatsky to maintain the clean room.<br>>> hallb engineering, you , and dsg were supposed to take turns keeping <br>>> the clean room<br>>> clean.<br>>> we had a meeting with patrizia.<br>>> george wrote up command orders.<br>>> dsg even hired a person to keep the room clean.<br>>> she still cleans the place.<br>>> but to the best of my knowledge, neither you, nor hallb engineering, <br>>> nor the mvt<br>>> crew etc etc who use the room did diddly squat of cleaning.<br>>> capire!<br>>><br>>> be it known to all that dsg is not the local janitorial group.<br>>> do what you preach.<br>>> organize a group to do all the things you are <br>>> suggesting, participate. go ahead<br>>> make my day.<br>>> the guys who made the mess should be the guys who should be cleaning <br>>> the mess,<br>>> isn't that so?<br>>><br>>> having said this, if you continue knowingly or unknowingly (ignorance <br>>> is no excuse)<br>>> on this track, you'll not only upset me but the entire dsg group, <br>>> including brian!<br>>> think about it. that kid has iron in his soul.<br>>><br>>> the tzar's era ended long ago son!<br>>> so, knock it off<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ <br>>><br>>> From: "Yuri Gotra" <gotra@jlab.org><br>>> To: "Amrit Yegneswaran" <yeg@jlab.org><br>>> Cc: "dsg-rich" <dsg-rich@jlab.org>, "dsg-svt" <dsg-svt@jlab.org>, <br>>> "rmiller"<br>>> <rmiller@jlab.org>, "Maxime Defurne" <mdefurne@jlab.org>, "Patrizia <br>>> Rossi"<br>>> <rossi@jlab.org>, "Volker Burkert" <burkert@jlab.org>, dsg-mvt@jlab.org,<br>>> dsg-ft@jlab.org, "Franck Sabatié" <fsabatie@gmail.com>, "Walt Akers"<br>>> <akers@jlab.org>, "Marco Contalbrigo" <mcontalb@fe.infn.it><br>>> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 5:38:56 PM<br>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-svt] [Dsg-mvt] [Dsg-rich] space in back of EEL 125<br>>><br>>> My understanding is that the question for RICH assembly is more <br>>> related to the<br>>> condition of the clean room rather than the lack of space. In any <br>>> case there are<br>>> some actions which could benefit both.<br>>><br>>> Here is what could be done:<br>>><br>>> - remove items being stored in EEL124 which are not related to CLAS12 <br>>> commissioning<br>>> activity ongoing in EEL124 (this would provide extra space and make <br>>> the room<br>>> cleaner)<br>>><br>>> - enforce the clean room rules (gowning, moving items to the clean <br>>> room, etc.)<br>>><br>>> - clean the gowning area and replace the sticky mats (the present lat <br>>> mat is ugly<br>>> and violates the rules)<br>>><br>>> - put patches on the broken floor epoxy coating (walking on the <br>>> broken coating<br>>> generates dust)<br>>><br>>> - vacuum clean the floor and the top of the remaining cabinets<br>>><br>>> - check the status of the EEL124 dust monitor<br>>><br>>> - consider building the canopy over the RICH (check with Youri <br>>> Sharabian whether he<br>>> could provide his HTCC clean room parts)<br>>><br>>> There are 2 weeks after the scheduled moving of the CVT to the hall <br>>> (October 30)<br>>> when RICH will be the only user of the clean room.<br>>><br>>><br>>> On 9/25/17 3:15 PM, Yuri Gotra wrote:<br>>><br>>> We did not receive any request from RICH group that they need<br>>> additional space. Per prior agreement with RICH group and Walt <br>>> the CVT<br>>> will stay in EEL124 till it will be moved to the hall. Small (SVT)<br>>> clean room was made available for RICH assembly. I will check with<br>>> Marco.<br>>><br>>><br>>> On 9/25/17 3:05 PM, Amrit Yegneswaran wrote:<br>>> we are looking at a new chapter on how to proceed, given the<br>>> delay.<br>>> not a re-iteration of the old schedule.<br>>> in the end, if appropriate and reasonable changes aren't implemented<br>>> one shouldn't be surprised at the outcome.<br>>><br>>> RICH needs clean room space at the back where the SVT/MVT is to<br>>> assemble the aerogel/the mirrors etc.<br>>> the svt/mvt doesn't need clean room space for cosmic data, am i wrong?<br>>> anyway, mine is only to suggest how to run things smoothly as i see it,<br>>> not enforce it.<br>>> klaro!<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> dsg-svt mailing list<br>>> dsg-svt@jlab.org<br>>> https://mailman.jlab.org/mailman/listinfo/dsg-svt<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br></div></div></body></html>