<html><body><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hello Tyler,</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>I replied to your mail where you presented the plan to test RICH cooling system:</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">==========<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">The general procedure in the study would be:<br></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">1.) turn on HV/LV and let the EP reach its normal running temperature.<br></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">2..) decrease airflow to set values (decrease in ~50 slm increments?).<br></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">3.) Allow RICH to reach a steady temperature after change.<br></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">4.) Repeat steps 2 and 3 until FPGA temperatures reach some upper limit (maybe 75 deg C?)</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">===========</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="font-size: 13pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 13pt;">If you have another plan with HV/LN OFF you can do it. THE CLAS DAQ may be busy so you have to inform Sergey Boiarinov that RICH electronics will not be available for DAQ. </span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="font-size: 13pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 13pt;">Regards,</span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="font-size: 13pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 13pt;">Valery</span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; 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text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Tyler Lemon" <tlemon@jlab.org><br><b>To: </b>"Valery Kubarovsky" <vpk@jlab.org><br><b>Cc: </b>"dsg-rich" <dsg-rich@jlab.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 5, 2018 4:25:07 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Dsg-rich] RICH airflow tests?<br></blockquote></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000" data-mce-style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><div>Hello Valery,<br></div><br><div>We will not plan to perform any tests where the airflow is changed while electronics are on.</div><br><div>However, there is one short test that would be good to do during this downtime with all electronics powered off. We have not tested whether the current air cooling set up can provide enough air cooling for two RICH sectors. To test this, we would turn all electronics off, temporarily reconfigure the air-cooling valve panel to supply 900 slm to RICH from one of its outputs, and then see if we can also get an additional 900 slm from the second output on the panel.<br></div><br><div>This test shouldn't take too long, maybe an hour at most. The air-cooling panel will be reconfigured how it is now (500 slm on Airflow 1 and 400 slm on Airflow 2) at the conclusion of the test.<br></div><br><div>Best regards,<br></div><div>Tyler<br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div><b>From: </b>"Valery Kubarovsky" <vpk@jlab.org><br><b>To: </b>"Tyler Lemon" <tlemon@jlab.org><br><b>Cc: </b>"dsg-rich" <dsg-rich@jlab.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:08:23 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Dsg-rich] RICH airflow tests?<br></div><br><div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000" data-mce-style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><div>Hello Tyler,</div><br><div>For a moment right now the maximum FPGA temperature is 65F. HV is OFF. Expect higher t when HV will be ON.</div><div>The limit is coming not only from the electronics itself but from the melting temperature of the fiber-optics cable that just touches </div><div>the FPGA chip. The temperature that we have now is almost at the limit. I am not in favor to make any test that will increase the electronics panel t. </div><br><div>I suggest another study that will help us to understand setting for the high limit temperature of your sensors.</div><div>For a moment the difference between current t and high limit is around 5 degrees. If we will study the</div><div>t fluctuation with time of all 16 sensors we can decrease probably this limit and get more safe run conditions.</div><div>We can study this behavior using spring data or take new one right now with HV ON.</div><br><div>Best regards,</div><div>Valery</div><div> </div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Tyler Lemon" <tlemon@jlab.org><br><b>To: </b>"dsg-rich" <dsg-rich@jlab.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 5, 2018 2:42:17 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Dsg-rich] RICH airflow tests?<br></blockquote></div><div><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000" data-mce-style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><div>Hello Marco and Valery,<br></div><br><div>A few months ago, you mentioned that it'd be good to figure out more precisely what airflow is needed to keep RICH electronics cool.<br></div><br><div>Since there will not be beam and Hall B will be open until next week, would we be able to run tests this week to determine how changes in cooling airflow affect RICH FPGA temperatures and hardware interlock RTDs?<br></div><br><div>The general procedure in the study would be:<br></div><div>1.) turn on HV/LV and let the EP reach its normal running temperature.<br></div><div>2..) decrease airflow to set values (decrease in ~50 slm increments?).<br></div><div>3.) Allow RICH to reach a steady temperature after change.<br></div><div>4.) Repeat steps 2 and 3 until FPGA temperatures reach some upper limit (maybe 75 deg C?)<br></div><br><div>The tests would also allow better limits on the hardware interlock to be set because we would have data supporting at what airflow RICH electronics temperatures start to get too high.<br></div><br><div>Please let us know.</div><br><div>Best regards,<br></div><div>Tyler<br></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>Dsg-rich mailing list<br>Dsg-rich@jlab.org<br>https://mailman.jlab.org/mailman/listinfo/dsg-rich</blockquote></div></div></div></div><br></blockquote></div></div></body></html>