<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
</head>
<body>
<p>The gas tubing length discussed below is from the gas panel to
the SVT mount, where the gas lines will have a bulkhead fitting.
There will be separate gas lines from the bulkhead fitting to the
detector.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>I don't know where your detector cables are starting, or ending.
Therefore, I don't know if basing their lengths off of the gas
line lengths is appropriate.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Bob<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/4/2019 9:06 PM, Carlos Ayerbe
Gayoso wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:DM5PR0901MB23110227933732BCDABE837BA77E0@DM5PR0901MB2311.namprd09.prod.outlook.com">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<style type="text/css" style="display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} </style>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);">
NOW we have some numbers!!</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);">
<br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);">
Thank you Jiwan!!<br>
</div>
<hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex="-1">
<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt"
face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> JIWAN
POUDEL <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jpoud001@odu.edu"><jpoud001@odu.edu></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 4, 2019 9:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Carlos Ayerbe Gayoso <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gayoso@jlab.org"><gayoso@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Brian Eng <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:beng@jlab.org"><beng@jlab.org></a>; Sebastian Kuhn
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kuhn@jlab.org"><kuhn@jlab.org></a>; Bob Miller <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rmiller@jlab.org"><rmiller@jlab.org></a>;
Nathan Baltzell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:baltzell@jlab.org"><baltzell@jlab.org></a>; Eric Christy
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:christy@jlab.org"><christy@jlab.org></a>; Bill Crahen
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wcrahen@jlab.org"><wcrahen@jlab.org></a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dsg-rtpc@jlab.org">dsg-rtpc@jlab.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dsg-rtpc@jlab.org"><dsg-rtpc@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Dsg-rtpc] RTPC Cable Length</font>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div class="" style="word-wrap:break-word;
line-break:after-white-space">Hello Carlos,
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">During the test of new gas panel, Bill Crahen sent
this about the length of the tubing:</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><font class="" color="#0432ff">"<span class=""
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I just talked to
Cyril, and he shows a straight line distance of about 11',
so figure perhaps 15' actual length, and shorten your
supply line to match.</span><span class="" style="">”</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" color="#0432ff"><span class=""
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br class="">
</span></font></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">So Bill and Bob
made the tubing of gas panel at EEL accordingly. I have also
cc’ed Bill Crahen, so he </span>might answer it correctly if
anything changed!!</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Thank you,</div>
<div class="">Jiwan</div>
<div class="">
<div><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Nov 4, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Carlos Ayerbe
Gayoso <<a href="mailto:gayoso@jlab.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">gayoso@jlab.org</a>> wrote:</div>
<br class="x_Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div class="" style="font-style:normal;
font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal;
letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start;
text-indent:0px; text-transform:none;
white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px;
text-decoration:none;
font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
allow me to rephrase Brian,</div>
<div class="" style="font-style:normal;
font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal;
letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start;
text-indent:0px; text-transform:none;
white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px;
text-decoration:none;
font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br class="">
</div>
<div class="" style="font-style:normal;
font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal;
letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start;
text-indent:0px; text-transform:none;
white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px;
text-decoration:none;
font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
the requested length of the cables SHOULD be
(approximately) the same as the length of the gas
tubing between the detector and the panel. Since that
distance is not the shortest one due to all the
obstacles and provisions between those elements (panel
and detector), both (cable and tubing) will share the
same path and will be quite longer than the evident
path.</div>
<br class="" style="font-family:Helvetica;
font-size:12px; font-style:normal;
font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal;
letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start;
text-indent:0px; text-transform:none;
white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px;
text-decoration:none">
<div class="" style="font-style:normal;
font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal;
letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start;
text-indent:0px; text-transform:none;
white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px;
text-decoration:none;
font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
I think that length is already (more or less) well
determined, but unknown for many, including me.</div>
<div class="" style="font-style:normal;
font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal;
letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start;
text-indent:0px; text-transform:none;
white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px;
text-decoration:none;
font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br class="">
</div>
<div class="" style="font-style:normal;
font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal;
letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start;
text-indent:0px; text-transform:none;
white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px;
text-decoration:none;
font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
Cheers</div>
<div class="" style="font-style:normal;
font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal;
letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start;
text-indent:0px; text-transform:none;
white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px;
text-decoration:none;
font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br class="">
</div>
<div class="" style="font-style:normal;
font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal;
letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start;
text-indent:0px; text-transform:none;
white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px;
text-decoration:none;
font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
-Carlos<br class="">
</div>
<div id="x_appendonsend" class=""
style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px;
font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal;
font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal;
text-align:start; text-indent:0px;
text-transform:none; white-space:normal;
word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:none">
</div>
<hr tabindex="-1" class="" style="font-family:Helvetica;
font-size:12px; font-style:normal;
font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal;
letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start;
text-indent:0px; text-transform:none;
white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px;
text-decoration:none; display:inline-block;
width:678.15625px">
<span class="" style="font-family:Helvetica;
font-size:12px; font-style:normal;
font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal;
letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start;
text-indent:0px; text-transform:none;
white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px;
text-decoration:none; float:none;
display:inline!important"></span>
<div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""
style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px;
font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal;
font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal;
text-align:start; text-indent:0px;
text-transform:none; white-space:normal;
word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:none">
<font class="" style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri,
sans-serif"><b class="">From:</b><span
class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dsg-rtpc
<<a href="mailto:dsg-rtpc-bounces@jlab.org"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">dsg-rtpc-bounces@jlab.org</a>>
on behalf of Brian Eng <<a
href="mailto:beng@jlab.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">beng@jlab.org</a>><br
class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday,
November 4, 2019 7:44 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sebastian
Kuhn <<a href="mailto:kuhn@jlab.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">kuhn@jlab.org</a>><br
class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b><span
class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:dsg-rtpc@jlab.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dsg-rtpc@jlab.org</a> <<a
href="mailto:dsg-rtpc@jlab.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dsg-rtpc@jlab.org</a>>;
Bob Miller <<a href="mailto:rmiller@jlab.org"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">rmiller@jlab.org</a>>;
Nathan Baltzell <<a
href="mailto:baltzell@jlab.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">baltzell@jlab.org</a>>;
Eric Christy <<a href="mailto:christy@jlab.org"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">christy@jlab.org</a>><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[Dsg-rtpc] RTPC Cable Length</font>
<div class=""> </div>
</div>
<div class="x_BodyFragment"
style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px;
font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal;
font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal;
text-align:start; text-indent:0px;
text-transform:none; white-space:normal;
word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:none">
<font class="" size="2"><span class=""
style="font-size:11pt">
<div class="x_PlainText">Bob has already provided
the length between the electronics and the gas
panel, so that part is established.<br class="">
<br class="">
As for the connectors I only ordered enough for
1 level of disconnect.<br class="">
<br class="">
What we don't have yet is the length from the
panel to the detector.<br class="">
<br class="">
________________________________________<br
class="">
From: Sebastian Kuhn <<a
href="mailto:kuhn@jlab.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">kuhn@jlab.org</a>><br
class="">
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 7:20 PM<br
class="">
To: Brian Eng<br class="">
Cc: <a href="mailto:dsg-rtpc@jlab.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dsg-rtpc@jlab.org</a>;
Nathan Baltzell; Narbe Kalantarians; Bob Miller;
Eric Christy; Hattawy, Mohammad<br class="">
Subject: Re: RTPC Cable Length<br class="">
<br class="">
Dear Brian,<br class="">
<br class="">
we briefly discussed this issue at today’s
BONuS12 engineering meeting. Basically, there
are several possible intermediate steps to
consider: The cables that are fixed to the
probes should have connectors for easy
installation together with the RTPC. The second
step would be from those connectors to the gas
panel. Finally, my understanding is that the
crate containing the electronics for the gas
system controllers will be some distance away
(but on the same space frame level), on the
North Side. (Nathan, please correct me if I’m
wrong). I don’t know what that distance is, but
maybe some of the other people cc’d on this
email can answer.<br class="">
<br class="">
Greetings - Sebastian<br class="">
<br class="">
On Nov 4, 2019, at 9:55 AM, Brian Eng <<a
href="mailto:beng@jlab.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">beng@jlab.org</a><<a
href="mailto:beng@jlab.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:beng@jlab.org</a>>>
wrote:<br class="">
<br class="">
Hi Sebastian,<br class="">
<br class="">
Do you have this information? If you have the
length between the gas panel and the detector I
can just add that to the length Bob is
providing.<br class="">
<br class="">
Who is fabricating the RTD cable? I'd assume we
(DSG) are, but best to make sure before we order
anything.<br class="">
<br class="">
Thanks<br class="">
--<br class="">
Brian Eng<br class="">
Detector Support Group<br class="">
757-269-6018<br class="">
<br class="">
Begin forwarded message:<br class="">
<br class="">
From: Bob Miller <<a
href="mailto:rmiller@jlab.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">rmiller@jlab.org</a><<a
href="mailto:rmiller@jlab.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:rmiller@jlab.org</a>>><br
class="">
Subject: Re: RTPC Cable Length<br class="">
Date: November 4, 2019 at 7:14:43 AM EST<br
class="">
To: Brian Eng <<a href="mailto:beng@jlab.org"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">beng@jlab.org</a><<a
href="mailto:beng@jlab.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:beng@jlab.org</a>>><br
class="">
<br class="">
Hi Brian,<br class="">
<br class="">
I can get you a cable length for the gas panel
tomorrow.<br class="">
<br class="">
Please contact Sebastian Kuhn about detector
cables. He was in the Hall last week and came
up with a plan, I don't know if he considered
RTDs.<br class="">
<br class="">
Thanks,<br class="">
<br class="">
Bob<br class="">
<br class="">
On 11/1/2019 6:02 PM, Brian Eng wrote:<br
class="">
Hi Bob,<br class="">
<br class="">
Is there a distance for the cables calculated
yet?<br class="">
<br class="">
We need one for the cables between the cRIO (on
SFL1N that we moved to) and the gas panel and
also one for the cRIO to the detector itself
(for RTDs).<br class="">
<br class="">
Thanks<br class="">
<br class="">
--<br class="">
Bob Miller<br class="">
Hall B Lead Engineer<br class="">
Jefferson Lab<br class="">
757 822-9586<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
_______________________________________________<br
class="">
Dsg-rtpc mailing list<br class="">
<a href="mailto:Dsg-rtpc@jlab.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">Dsg-rtpc@jlab.org</a><br
class="">
<a
href="https://mailman.jlab.org/mailman/listinfo/dsg-rtpc"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://mailman.jlab.org/mailman/listinfo/dsg-rtpc</a><br
class="">
</div>
</span></font></div>
<span class="" style="font-family:Helvetica;
font-size:12px; font-style:normal;
font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal;
letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start;
text-indent:0px; text-transform:none;
white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px;
text-decoration:none; float:none;
display:inline!important">_______________________________________________</span><br
class="" style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px;
font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal;
font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal;
text-align:start; text-indent:0px;
text-transform:none; white-space:normal;
word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:none">
<span class="" style="font-family:Helvetica;
font-size:12px; font-style:normal;
font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal;
letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start;
text-indent:0px; text-transform:none;
white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px;
text-decoration:none; float:none;
display:inline!important">Dsg-rtpc mailing list</span><br
class="" style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px;
font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal;
font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal;
text-align:start; text-indent:0px;
text-transform:none; white-space:normal;
word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:none">
<a href="mailto:Dsg-rtpc@jlab.org" class=""
style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px;
font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal;
font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal;
orphans:auto; text-align:start; text-indent:0px;
text-transform:none; white-space:normal; widows:auto;
word-spacing:0px" moz-do-not-send="true">Dsg-rtpc@jlab.org</a><br
class="" style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px;
font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal;
font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal;
text-align:start; text-indent:0px;
text-transform:none; white-space:normal;
word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:none">
<a
href="https://mailman.jlab.org/mailman/listinfo/dsg-rtpc"
class="" style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px;
font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal;
font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal;
orphans:auto; text-align:start; text-indent:0px;
text-transform:none; white-space:normal; widows:auto;
word-spacing:0px" moz-do-not-send="true">https://mailman.jlab.org/mailman/listinfo/dsg-rtpc</a></div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Bob Miller
Hall B Lead Engineer
Jefferson Lab
757 822-9586
</pre>
</body>
</html>