[dsg-svt] [Dsg-mvt] [Dsg-rich] space in back of EEL 125

Mon Sep 25 21:14:37 EDT 2017

Dear Patrizia and Walt,

I have to be at the review till closeout which ends (according to the current schedule) at 3:35pm. I can meet after that.

Regards, Stepan

> On Sep 25, 2017, at 8:17 PM, Patrizia Rossi <rossi at jlab.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Walt,
> 
> tomorrow morning Stepan and I are busy with the Hall B science readiness review.
> I can be available after 2.30 pm (at 1.30 pm I have the Hall A meeting) but I don’t know about Stepan.
> 
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>> On 25/set/2017, at 20:12, Walt Akers / JLAB <akers at jlab.org <mailto:akers at jlab.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good evening all...
>> 
>> Sadly, I spent most of my afternoon programming, so I didn't
>> engage this until a few minutes ago.  Needless to say, I believe
>> we can resolve the space issues with a minimal amount of fuss
>> if we get together and work through the issues.
>> 
>> Let me speak with Patrizia and Stepan tomorrow and see if they
>> have some time to join us tomorrow morning and we'll decide
>> what the best approach is to keep everyone on schedule and,
>> perhaps, tidying things up a bit.
>> 
>> Walt
>> 
>> Marco Contalbrigo wrote:
>>> Dear Amrit,
>>> let me try to summarize my present understanding about
>>> EEL-125 use.
>>> 
>>> Space: RICH assembling would likely need more space than
>>> expected due to the complex procedure and several
>>> delicate elements. However, looking at the screenshot
>>> of Bob Miller, I realized the SVT+MM system will be
>>> moved out of the clean room at the end of October.
>>> This will free the space in time for the most critical
>>> activity (aerogel assembling). To remove unnecessary
>>> stuff or re-organize part of the services (i.e. tables)
>>> might solve the issue without the need of moving
>>> the SVT+MM in advance.
>>> 
>>> Clean: the RICH group has always scheduled a cleanup
>>> action between the tasks to be performed before
>>> the critical element assembling. This cleanup
>>> has not been very well defined yet but the actions
>>> Yuri is listing are all going in the same direction.
>>> I am in favor of them. Who should do what has
>>> to be agreeded, and RICH will cover his part by sure.
>>> 
>>> Of course, I might not have all the details under
>>> control and I am at disposal to further discuss the
>>> above points in order to reach a practical agreement.
>>> 
>>> Best regards, Marco.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Amrit Yegneswaran wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> your understanding of the situation is meager, at best unsatisfactory!
>>>> but that's ok
>>>> not 2 years ago you were doing the kazatsky to maintain the clean room.
>>>> hallb engineering, you , and dsg were supposed to take turns keeping the clean room
>>>> clean.
>>>> we had a meeting with patrizia.
>>>> george wrote up command orders.
>>>> dsg even hired a person to keep the room clean.
>>>> she still cleans the place.
>>>> but to the best of my knowledge, neither you, nor hallb engineering, nor the mvt
>>>> crew etc etc who use the room did diddly squat of cleaning.
>>>> capire!
>>>> 
>>>> be it known to all that dsg is not the local janitorial group.
>>>> do what you preach.
>>>> organize a group to do all the things you are suggesting, participate. go ahead
>>>> make my day.
>>>> the guys who made the mess should be the guys who should be cleaning the mess,
>>>> isn't that so?
>>>> 
>>>> having said this, if you continue knowingly or unknowingly (ignorance is no excuse)
>>>> on this track, you'll not only upset me but the entire dsg group, including brian!
>>>> think about it. that kid has iron in his soul.
>>>> 
>>>> the tzar's era ended long ago son!
>>>> so, knock it off
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ 
>>>> From: "Yuri Gotra" <gotra at jlab.org <mailto:gotra at jlab.org>>
>>>> To: "Amrit Yegneswaran" <yeg at jlab.org <mailto:yeg at jlab.org>>
>>>> Cc: "dsg-rich" <dsg-rich at jlab.org <mailto:dsg-rich at jlab.org>>, "dsg-svt" <dsg-svt at jlab.org <mailto:dsg-svt at jlab.org>>, "rmiller"
>>>> <rmiller at jlab.org <mailto:rmiller at jlab.org>>, "Maxime Defurne" <mdefurne at jlab.org <mailto:mdefurne at jlab.org>>, "Patrizia Rossi"
>>>> <rossi at jlab.org <mailto:rossi at jlab.org>>, "Volker Burkert" <burkert at jlab.org <mailto:burkert at jlab.org>>, dsg-mvt at jlab.org <mailto:dsg-mvt at jlab.org>,
>>>> dsg-ft at jlab.org <mailto:dsg-ft at jlab.org>, "Franck Sabatié" <fsabatie at gmail.com <mailto:fsabatie at gmail.com>>, "Walt Akers"
>>>> <akers at jlab.org <mailto:akers at jlab.org>>, "Marco Contalbrigo" <mcontalb at fe.infn.it <mailto:mcontalb at fe.infn.it>>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 5:38:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-svt] [Dsg-mvt] [Dsg-rich] space in back of EEL 125
>>>> 
>>>> My understanding is that the question for RICH assembly is more related to the
>>>> condition of the clean room rather than the lack of space. In any case there are
>>>> some actions which could benefit both.
>>>> 
>>>> Here is what could be done:
>>>> 
>>>> - remove items being stored in EEL124 which are not related to CLAS12 commissioning
>>>> activity ongoing in EEL124 (this would provide extra space and make the room
>>>> cleaner)
>>>> 
>>>> - enforce the clean room rules (gowning, moving items to the clean room, etc.)
>>>> 
>>>> - clean the gowning area and replace the sticky mats (the present lat mat is ugly
>>>> and violates the rules)
>>>> 
>>>> - put patches on the broken floor epoxy coating (walking on the broken coating
>>>> generates dust)
>>>> 
>>>> - vacuum clean the floor and the top of the remaining cabinets
>>>> 
>>>> - check the status of the EEL124 dust monitor
>>>> 
>>>> - consider building the canopy over the RICH (check with Youri Sharabian whether he
>>>> could provide his HTCC clean room parts)
>>>> 
>>>> There are 2 weeks after the scheduled moving of the CVT to the hall (October 30)
>>>> when RICH will be the only user of the clean room.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/25/17 3:15 PM, Yuri Gotra wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>      We did not receive any request from RICH group that they need
>>>>      additional space. Per prior agreement with RICH group and Walt the CVT
>>>>      will stay in EEL124 till it will be moved to the hall. Small (SVT)
>>>>      clean room was made available for RICH assembly. I will check with
>>>>      Marco.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>      On 9/25/17 3:05 PM, Amrit Yegneswaran wrote:
>>>>      we are looking at a new chapter on how to proceed, given the
>>>>      delay.
>>>> not a re-iteration of the old schedule.
>>>> in the end, if appropriate and reasonable changes aren't implemented
>>>> one shouldn't be surprised at the outcome.
>>>> 
>>>> RICH needs clean room space at the back where the SVT/MVT is to
>>>> assemble the aerogel/the mirrors etc.
>>>> the svt/mvt doesn't need clean room space for cosmic data, am i wrong?
>>>> anyway, mine is only to suggest how to run things smoothly as i see it,
>>>> not enforce it.
>>>> klaro!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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