[Dsg-hallc_controls] SHV Adapter for CAEN A7030TN HV Module

Brad Sawatzky brads at jlab.org
Thu Jul 4 15:35:41 EDT 2019


Hi Marc,

I know I'm a week late on this -- sorry.  Last couple weeks have been
super busy and this got lost in my inbox...

Thanks very much for following up on hardware for the testing, and the
good catch on the potential fabrication issue with the pins.

Let's have a brief chat about the HV plans on during/after the Hall A
gas distribution meeting on Monday.  I can give you a more information
about what our plans are for the A7030TN cards/crate(s).  Any support
DSG can provide to pull the needed parts/cabling together would
definitely be appreciated -- we do have some time for that (1+ years),
so it's not a rush job.

I found the req for the test chassis parts and signed them just now.

All the best,
-- Brad

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019, Marc Mcmullen wrote:

>    Hi Brad,
>    While preparing to set up the testing of the new Hall C HV modules, I
>    noticed that some of the pins on the A7030TN socket did not extend as far
>    as others, I have documented the issue in a short word file. It is
>    attached to this email.
>    As far as the testing is concerned, I have discussed the matter with DSG
>    management and we have developed a plan to move forward with the module
>    testing.
> 
>     1. We have obtained an HV breakout chassis, which was initially built to
>        service two A7030L, 24 channel modules. DSG will modify this chassis
>        (extract pins from the Radiall connectors and re-pin) to work with the
>        Hall C A7030TN 36 channel module. DSG will then move forward with
>        channel by channel testing of the Hall C modules.
>     2. Hall C will still need a distribution box design for installation in
>        the end station. I have developed a parts list to fabricate a chassis
>        with an attached cable, similar to the CAEN product.
> 
>          1. We can improve on the CAEN design by utilizing a custom shielded
>             HV multi-conductor cable from General Wire Products. The length
>             of this cable can be made so that the distribution is much closer
>             to the detector, instead of running long individual HV coax.
> 
>               1. If the length is known, please forward that length and I can
>                  work it into the parts list.
>               2.  The minimum length for a 40 conductor shielded, cable is
>                  1000' @ $6.28per/ft.
> 
>          2. A quick cost estimate for the parts including a spool of 1000' of
>             the cable is $1700 to $1800 per distribution box, making 17 boxes
>             with 50' multi-conductor cables.
> 
>               1. Adjustments to this estimate must be made if more than 17
>                  boxes are needed or the runs are longer than 50'.
> 
>     3. Hall C will still need a testing chassis, the chassis DSG will modify
>        for use, will eventually have to be converted back to a dual 24
>        channel chassis.
> 
>          1. DSG can fabricate this chassis using HV hook-up wire and the same
>             components specified for the Hall use application. We have most
>             of the components on hand, except the chassis box and the spool
>             of HV hook-up wire. Hall C will need to purchase the components
>             to replenish what we have on hand and buy the chassis and wire
>             spool. The total cost is approximately $2400. I estimate 5 to 6
>             weeks to complete the fabrication, due to chassis and hook-up
>             wire lead time.
>          2. Alternatively, CAEN sells a chassis for ~$1900, however the lead
>             time is 12 weeks.
> 
>    Please review this information and let us know on the options you would
>    like me to start the procurement process concerning points 2 and 3, as
>    well as your thoughts concerning the module connector pins issue.
>    Regards,
>    Marc
> 
>    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>    From: Dsg-hallc_controls <dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf
>    of Amrit Yegneswaran
>    Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:25 PM
>    To: Peter Bonneau; Brad Sawatzky; dsg-hallc controls
>    Subject: Re: [Dsg-hallc_controls] SHV Adapter for CAEN A7030TN HV Module
> 
>    dear peter,
>    i agree with your recommendation.
>    also, do you have a suggestion for the wobbly pins which marc mentioned.
>    amrit
> 
>    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>    From: Dsg-hallc_controls <dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf
>    of Peter Bonneau
>    Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 1:47 PM
>    To: Brad Sawatzky; dsg-hallc controls
>    Subject: [Dsg-hallc_controls] SHV Adapter for CAEN A7030TN HV Module
> 
>    Hi Brad,
>    For testing the CAEN A7030TN HV modules, DSG will need a Radiall multipin
>    to SHV adapter.
>    We're evaluating the cost & effort of making a adapter box with purchasing
>    a box directly from CAEN.
>    If the cost is similar, I'd recommend purchasing a box from CAEN.
>    Peter

> QUOTATION
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