[Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin Question

Greg Kibilko greg at setechsales.com
Tue Feb 18 10:32:35 EST 2020


Hi Aaron,

I am sure Gianni will agree that a visit is in order.

In the next couple of months are there any specific days/weeks we should 
target to visit?  Or days/weeks we should try to avoid?

Thanks!
Greg

On 2/18/2020 10:30 AM, Aaron Brown wrote:
> Hello Gianni,
>
> We currently have 33 A7030TN modules and 2 SY4527 crates on hand.
> I think that best idea would be to have someone from CAEN make a visit 
> to the lab and take a look/fix the connector pins.
>
> Best regards,
> Aaron Brown
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Gianni Di Maio <g.dimaio at caen.it>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2020 12:12 PM
> *To:* Aaron Brown <ambrown at jlab.org>; Amrit Yegneswaran <yeg at jlab.org>
> *Cc:* Patrizia Rossi <rossi at jlab.org>; dsg-hallc controls 
> <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>; Greg Kibilko <greg at setechsales.com>; 
> Alberto Lucchesi <a.lucchesi at caen.it>
> *Subject:* Re: [Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin 
> Question
> Hello Aaron,
> thank you very much for the details.
> Really strange a so high number of problems on the panel connector, as 
> told from our experience it is more problematic the cable connector, 
> this is the reason that we add the hot glue.
> At this point let me know how you wish proceed.
> To rework/repair the boards with pins pushed out we have two 
> solutions, you ship the boards to our office in NY, or I could make an 
> intervention in JLAB in spring.
> How many boards you have in total?
> May be it's worth to have a look to al the boards.
>
> Waiting your comments.
> Best regards.
> Gianni
>
> Il 14/02/2020 16:48, Aaron Brown ha scritto:
>> Hello Gianni,
>>
>> We have experienced the issue of pins getting pushed back 12 separate 
>> times;
>> 8 times it was the pins for the safety loops, and 4 times is was an 
>> arbitrary pin.
>> All occurrences were on the board R52 connector (male).
>> I have attached a photo to highlight exactly what we're describing.
>> Also attached is a photo of the inside of one of the boards showing 
>> how the channel pins
>> are strain relieved, but the safety loop pins are not.
>>
>> If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to send an email to 
>> the mailing list.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Aaron Brown
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Dsg-hallc_controls <dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org> 
>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of Gianni Di 
>> Maio <g.dimaio at caen.it> <mailto:g.dimaio at caen.it>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2020 3:26 AM
>> *To:* Amrit Yegneswaran <yeg at jlab.org> <mailto:yeg at jlab.org>
>> *Cc:* Patrizia Rossi <rossi at jlab.org> <mailto:rossi at jlab.org>; 
>> dsg-hallc controls <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org> 
>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>; Greg Kibilko 
>> <greg at setechsales.com> <mailto:greg at setechsales.com>; Alberto 
>> Lucchesi <a.lucchesi at caen.it> <mailto:a.lucchesi at caen.it>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin 
>> Question
>> Dear Amrit,
>>
>> thank you for your email, I apologize I was not aware about the dsg 
>> mailing list (dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org 
>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>).
>> I full agree with you the pushed pins issue will be surely addressed 
>> by CAEN, we are considering to do a maintenance intervention at JLAB 
>> in the next future.
>> What I would like to know  to have a clear idea of the situation is
>> How many boards with pushed pin/s you have?
>> How many pins per board?
>> If I well understood ( but may be I'm wrong) there are 4 boards with 
>> this issue, that is one pin pushed back,and every time is one of the 
>> two safety pin loop.
>>
>> Could you or some one of the group confirm me these numbers?
>>
>> Or in case I'm wrong could you provide me a report updated to today?
>>
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> Gianni
>>
>>
>> Il 13/02/2020 19:16, Amrit Yegneswaran ha scritto:
>>> hello,
>>> this issue of pushed pins needs to be addressed by CAEN.
>>> dsg is not in this business.
>>> also, i am very disappointed that i'm receiving the gianni's e-mail 
>>> only today now.
>>> i urge all of you, for the sake of transparency, particularly from 
>>> the caen side to use the mailing list, like we do here at jlab.
>>> amrit
>>> if anyone in the dsg group receives a "singular" e-mail make sure 
>>> you broadcast it to the mailing list.
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Dsg-hallc_controls <dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org> 
>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of Brian Eng 
>>> <beng at jlab.org> <mailto:beng at jlab.org>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:32 PM
>>> *To:* dsg-hallc controls <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org> 
>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>>> *Subject:* [Dsg-hallc_controls] Fwd: [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin 
>>> Question
>>> In regards to Brad's previous email about the potting material 
>>> here's one of the emails CAEN sent.
>>>
>>> Still waiting on more feedback since we've definitely seen it on the 
>>> board side multiple times.
>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Gianni Di Maio <g.dimaio at caen.it <mailto:g.dimaio at caen.it>>
>>>> *Subject: **Re: [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin Question*
>>>> *Date: *February 6, 2020 at 5:42:31 PM EST
>>>> *To: *Brian Eng <beng at jlab.org <mailto:beng at jlab.org>>
>>>> *Cc: *Greg Kibilko <greg at setechsales.com <mailto:greg at setechsales.com>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Brian,
>>>>
>>>> please could you tell me if the pins pushed out are present only on 
>>>> the RADIALL connector installed on the boards (female)  or even on 
>>>> the RADIALL connectors installed on the cables ( male).
>>>> >From my experience usually in the past the problem appeared only 
>>>> on cable side, this is the reason that we decided to add the hot 
>>>> glue, in order to strengthen the tightness of the pin and prevent a 
>>>> possible escape from the correct position, but this as said only 
>>>> for the cable connector.
>>>> The problem on the panel connector is very rare, how many 
>>>> problematic boards you have  with pins pushed out?
>>>> Could you send me some pictures?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards.
>>>> Gianni
>>>
>>
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