[Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin Question
Greg Kibilko
greg at setechsales.com
Tue Feb 18 10:38:48 EST 2020
Hi Aaron,
Ok, fantastic. This gives us plenty of time to work with.
How about timeline? Is April too late?
Cheers,
Greg
On 2/18/2020 10:36 AM, Aaron Brown wrote:
> Morning Greg,
>
> The only day/time I can think of that /might/ pose a problem would be
> Wednesday afternoons between 1 and 3.
> Other than that, there is nothing that can't be worked around.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Greg Kibilko <greg at setechsales.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:32 AM
> *To:* Aaron Brown <ambrown at jlab.org>; Gianni Di Maio
> <g.dimaio at caen.it>; Amrit Yegneswaran <yeg at jlab.org>
> *Cc:* Patrizia Rossi <rossi at jlab.org>; dsg-hallc controls
> <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>; Alberto Lucchesi <a.lucchesi at caen.it>
> *Subject:* Re: [Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin
> Question
> Hi Aaron,
>
> I am sure Gianni will agree that a visit is in order.
>
> In the next couple of months are there any specific days/weeks we
> should target to visit? Or days/weeks we should try to avoid?
>
> Thanks!
> Greg
>
> On 2/18/2020 10:30 AM, Aaron Brown wrote:
>> Hello Gianni,
>>
>> We currently have 33 A7030TN modules and 2 SY4527 crates on hand.
>> I think that best idea would be to have someone from CAEN make a
>> visit to the lab and take a look/fix the connector pins.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Aaron Brown
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Gianni Di Maio <g.dimaio at caen.it> <mailto:g.dimaio at caen.it>
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2020 12:12 PM
>> *To:* Aaron Brown <ambrown at jlab.org> <mailto:ambrown at jlab.org>; Amrit
>> Yegneswaran <yeg at jlab.org> <mailto:yeg at jlab.org>
>> *Cc:* Patrizia Rossi <rossi at jlab.org> <mailto:rossi at jlab.org>;
>> dsg-hallc controls <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>; Greg Kibilko
>> <greg at setechsales.com> <mailto:greg at setechsales.com>; Alberto
>> Lucchesi <a.lucchesi at caen.it> <mailto:a.lucchesi at caen.it>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin
>> Question
>> Hello Aaron,
>> thank you very much for the details.
>> Really strange a so high number of problems on the panel connector,
>> as told from our experience it is more problematic the cable
>> connector, this is the reason that we add the hot glue.
>> At this point let me know how you wish proceed.
>> To rework/repair the boards with pins pushed out we have two
>> solutions, you ship the boards to our office in NY, or I could make
>> an intervention in JLAB in spring.
>> How many boards you have in total?
>> May be it's worth to have a look to al the boards.
>>
>> Waiting your comments.
>> Best regards.
>> Gianni
>>
>> Il 14/02/2020 16:48, Aaron Brown ha scritto:
>>> Hello Gianni,
>>>
>>> We have experienced the issue of pins getting pushed back 12
>>> separate times;
>>> 8 times it was the pins for the safety loops, and 4 times is was an
>>> arbitrary pin.
>>> All occurrences were on the board R52 connector (male).
>>> I have attached a photo to highlight exactly what we're describing.
>>> Also attached is a photo of the inside of one of the boards showing
>>> how the channel pins
>>> are strain relieved, but the safety loop pins are not.
>>>
>>> If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to send an email
>>> to the mailing list.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Aaron Brown
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Dsg-hallc_controls <dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org>
>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of Gianni Di
>>> Maio <g.dimaio at caen.it> <mailto:g.dimaio at caen.it>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2020 3:26 AM
>>> *To:* Amrit Yegneswaran <yeg at jlab.org> <mailto:yeg at jlab.org>
>>> *Cc:* Patrizia Rossi <rossi at jlab.org> <mailto:rossi at jlab.org>;
>>> dsg-hallc controls <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>; Greg Kibilko
>>> <greg at setechsales.com> <mailto:greg at setechsales.com>; Alberto
>>> Lucchesi <a.lucchesi at caen.it> <mailto:a.lucchesi at caen.it>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin
>>> Question
>>> Dear Amrit,
>>>
>>> thank you for your email, I apologize I was not aware about the dsg
>>> mailing list (dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org
>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>).
>>> I full agree with you the pushed pins issue will be surely addressed
>>> by CAEN, we are considering to do a maintenance intervention at JLAB
>>> in the next future.
>>> What I would like to know to have a clear idea of the situation is
>>> How many boards with pushed pin/s you have?
>>> How many pins per board?
>>> If I well understood ( but may be I'm wrong) there are 4 boards with
>>> this issue, that is one pin pushed back,and every time is one of the
>>> two safety pin loop.
>>>
>>> Could you or some one of the group confirm me these numbers?
>>>
>>> Or in case I'm wrong could you provide me a report updated to today?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards.
>>>
>>> Gianni
>>>
>>>
>>> Il 13/02/2020 19:16, Amrit Yegneswaran ha scritto:
>>>> hello,
>>>> this issue of pushed pins needs to be addressed by CAEN.
>>>> dsg is not in this business.
>>>> also, i am very disappointed that i'm receiving the gianni's e-mail
>>>> only today now.
>>>> i urge all of you, for the sake of transparency, particularly from
>>>> the caen side to use the mailing list, like we do here at jlab.
>>>> amrit
>>>> if anyone in the dsg group receives a "singular" e-mail make sure
>>>> you broadcast it to the mailing list.
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Dsg-hallc_controls <dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org>
>>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of Brian Eng
>>>> <beng at jlab.org> <mailto:beng at jlab.org>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:32 PM
>>>> *To:* dsg-hallc controls <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>>>> *Subject:* [Dsg-hallc_controls] Fwd: [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin
>>>> Question
>>>> In regards to Brad's previous email about the potting material
>>>> here's one of the emails CAEN sent.
>>>>
>>>> Still waiting on more feedback since we've definitely seen it on
>>>> the board side multiple times.
>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Gianni Di Maio <g.dimaio at caen.it <mailto:g.dimaio at caen.it>>
>>>>> *Subject: **Re: [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin Question*
>>>>> *Date: *February 6, 2020 at 5:42:31 PM EST
>>>>> *To: *Brian Eng <beng at jlab.org <mailto:beng at jlab.org>>
>>>>> *Cc: *Greg Kibilko <greg at setechsales.com
>>>>> <mailto:greg at setechsales.com>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Brian,
>>>>>
>>>>> please could you tell me if the pins pushed out are present only
>>>>> on the RADIALL connector installed on the boards (female) or even
>>>>> on the RADIALL connectors installed on the cables ( male).
>>>>> >From my experience usually in the past the problem appeared only
>>>>> on cable side, this is the reason that we decided to add the hot
>>>>> glue, in order to strengthen the tightness of the pin and prevent
>>>>> a possible escape from the correct position, but this as said only
>>>>> for the cable connector.
>>>>> The problem on the panel connector is very rare, how many
>>>>> problematic boards you have with pins pushed out?
>>>>> Could you send me some pictures?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>> Gianni
>>>>
>>>
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