[dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates

thomaso at jlab.org thomaso at jlab.org
Fri Oct 16 12:23:34 EDT 2020 

Hi Tyler,

We connected the cables, but I would like some time to run some sweeps and
see if I can quickly replicate what we saw overnight. I'm taking some
background sweeps right now.  I will let you know when I finish and you
can access the L.I. amplifier.

-Tom


> Okay, Tom.
>
> Thanks for the update!
>
> Tyler
> ________________________________
> From: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 9:57 AM
> To: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
> Cc: Tyler Lemon <tlemon at jlab.org>; Xiangdong Wei <xwei at jlab.org>; Brian
> Eng <beng at jlab.org>; dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>
> Hi Tyler,
>
> The plan is to connect Zurich rack to the PD around noon today. I will
> email you as soon as we have it set.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
>> Hi Tyler,
>>
>> Not yet unfortunately.  The target wasn't ready until late last night.
>> Using Rack #1, we started running NMR around midnight and just finished
>> the first run a few minutes ago. As soon as I get the newest schedule
>> regarding the target, I will arrange to connect the Zurich Lock-In and
>> let
>> you know.
>>
>> I apologize this doesn't give you much time to try out the boxcar
>> averager
>> with an actual target.
>>
>> -Tom
>>
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> Have you all had the chance to hook up the Zurich lock-in amplifier to
>>> the
>>> target?
>>>
>>> Tyler
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:12 AM
>>> To: Tyler Lemon <tlemon at jlab.org>
>>> Cc: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>; Xiangdong Wei <xwei at jlab.org>;
>>> Brian Eng <beng at jlab.org>; dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>
>>> Hi Tyler,
>>>
>>> There was a delay in condensing a new target.  The gas being used
>>> needed
>>> to be purified.  I might be able to connect the cables this afternoon.
>>> The Zurich Lock-In Amplifier will still be available for you to use in
>>> the
>>> mean time.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for letting me know. Glad to hear the activation went through
>>>> without issues.
>>>>
>>>> I'll take a look this afternoon to figure out the boxcar averager to
>>>> save
>>>> time when the cables are reconnected.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tyler
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:27 PM
>>>> To: Tyler Lemon <tlemon at jlab.org>
>>>> Cc: Xiangdong Wei <xwei at jlab.org>; thomaso at jlab.org
>>>> <thomaso at jlab.org>;
>>>> Brian Eng <beng at jlab.org>; dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tyler,
>>>>
>>>> The Boxcar Averager feature is now unlocked in LabOne.  A new target
>>>> is
>>>> currently being condensed today in the production dewer, which
>>>> requires
>>>> the NMR cables be disconnected.  If you are interested in checking out
>>>> the
>>>> features without a target this afternoon, you are welcome.
>>>>
>>>> I will let you know when the cables are reconnected and we are able to
>>>> actually take measurements.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>
>>>>> That seems like a good plan to me, too, since it avoids any
>>>>> uncertainty
>>>>> about the access privileges all together.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: dsg-hdice <dsg-hdice-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of Xiangdong
>>>>> Wei
>>>>> <xwei at jlab.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 1:22:07 AM
>>>>> To: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>; Brian Eng <beng at jlab.org>
>>>>> Cc: dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds good to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank,
>>>>>
>>>>> Xiangdong
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: dsg-hdice <dsg-hdice-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of
>>>>> thomaso at jlab.org
>>>>> <thomaso at jlab.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 9:55 AM
>>>>> To: Brian Eng <beng at jlab.org>
>>>>> Cc: dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>>
>>>>> I emailed Ed about the situation and he offered a different solution.
>>>>> He
>>>>> suggested connecting my personal laptop to the Lock-In amplifier with
>>>>> the
>>>>> USB cable.  I could let him use my laptop to activate the device
>>>>> features.
>>>>> Once he activates the features, any PC that connects to the device
>>>>> will
>>>>> automatically have access to the new features.
>>>>>
>>>>> In this case, the earliest we could start the trial would be Tuesday
>>>>> afternoon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tyler, I can make sure you have as much access to the device as
>>>>> possible
>>>>> to explore the new features before you go on vacation.  I can check
>>>>> them
>>>>> out in the evening and on the weekend when you are away.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will contact Ed again and get back with an update.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless it is something already built in I don't think it's allowed,
>>>>>> i.e.
>>>>>> installing TeamViewer software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't seen anything that says you couldn't do a screen share and
>>>>>> give
>>>>>> someone else control (since Teams seems to at least have the
>>>>>> possibility
>>>>>> of doing that), but you might want to check with the CC to be sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: dsg-hdice <dsg-hdice-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of Tyler
>>>>>> Lemon
>>>>>> <tlemon at jlab.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 3:47 PM
>>>>>> To: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
>>>>>> Cc: dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>> I'd be available anytime except for 11:00 - 12:00 for the Teams
>>>>>> meeting
>>>>>> with Ed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter and Brian,
>>>>>> Just to maybe head off a problem, is using Teams to have an non-JLab
>>>>>> user
>>>>>> access a JLab PC allowable?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom, if the remote control aspect is not okay, would it be
>>>>>> sufficient
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Ed to remotely view my screen while I type and control the PC
>>>>>> connected
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the lock-in amplifier?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 3:36 PM
>>>>>> To: Tyler Lemon <tlemon at jlab.org>
>>>>>> Cc: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>; dsg-hdice at jlab.org
>>>>>> <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tyler,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will ask Ed if we can start Monday.  He mentioned in his last
>>>>>> email
>>>>>> that to start the trial "This will require a computer connected to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> instrument that I can gain remote control over through teamviewer to
>>>>>> activate the option."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I won't have access to a PC connected to the Lock-In amplifier until
>>>>>> Tuesday.  Tyler, would you have access to a PC Monday?  If so, would
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> have time on Monday to have a virtual meeting with Ed so he can
>>>>>> activate
>>>>>> the trial?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems like the best option would be to see if the trial period
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> start on Monday. That way there'd be enough time for you all in
>>>>>>> HDice
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> look into it, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not think it would be possible to write a program for the
>>>>>>> boxcar
>>>>>>> averager during the one week trial period. Using the boxcar
>>>>>>> averager
>>>>>>> during the trial period would have to be done through "manual" set
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> what was shown in the demo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To not waste any part of the trial period, it might be a good idea
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> talk to Ed and verify the best way to set up the signals for the
>>>>>>> boxcar
>>>>>>> averager. If I remember correctly from the demo, the signal
>>>>>>> detected
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> the lock-in amplifier would need to be output through one of the
>>>>>>> Zurich
>>>>>>> lock-in amplifier's auxiliary outputs and then into the boxcar
>>>>>>> averager
>>>>>>> input.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
>>>>>>> To: Tyler Lemon <tlemon at jlab.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Tyler,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was speaking to Xiangdong today about our schedules.  We will be
>>>>>>> starting Run 2 of the experiment by the 26th.  He believes him and
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be too busy with running the experiment at UITF to be able to work
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Boxcar Averager at this point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He came up with two suggestions.  First would be to activate the
>>>>>>> trial
>>>>>>> possibly today (or more realistically Monday) if you have time to
>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> checking out the Boxcar features before your vacation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The second option would be to start the trial on 10/26 when you are
>>>>>>> back.
>>>>>>> Xiangdong pointed out that if we wait until then, it wouldn't give
>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> time before we'd need the device for taking actual measurements.
>>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>>> Xiangdong said we would have to let the DSG take over working with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Boxcar Averager since all our time will be devoted to Run 2 of the
>>>>>>> experiment. He wasn't sure how long you would need to investigate
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> device/LabOne, write a program, and test before needing to take
>>>>>>> actual
>>>>>>> measurements.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know what you think about the situation when you have a
>>>>>>> chance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will be on vacation from 10/17 through 10/25, so would it be
>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> have trial period starting 10/26?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: dsg-hdice <dsg-hdice-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of
>>>>>>>> thomaso at jlab.org
>>>>>>>> <thomaso at jlab.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 12:15 AM
>>>>>>>> To: dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Tyler,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm working with Ed, from Zurich, to schedule the 1 week trial for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Boxcar Averager.  I was thinking of asking the trial to be from
>>>>>>>> Wednesday
>>>>>>>> October 14th to Wednesday October 21st given the HDice schedule.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However I wanted to check with you and your group first to see if
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> time frame works with your schedules should you want to try out
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>> features?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
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