[dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates

[thomaso at jlab.org]

Hi Tyler,

The Zurich Lock-In Amplifier is all yours now.

-Tom


> Okay, no problem.
>
> Thanks!
> ________________________________
> From: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 12:23 PM
> To: Tyler Lemon <tlemon at jlab.org>
> Cc: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>; Xiangdong Wei <xwei at jlab.org>;
> Brian Eng <beng at jlab.org>; dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>
> Hi Tyler,
>
> We connected the cables, but I would like some time to run some sweeps and
> see if I can quickly replicate what we saw overnight. I'm taking some
> background sweeps right now.  I will let you know when I finish and you
> can access the L.I. amplifier.
>
> -Tom
>
>
>> Okay, Tom.
>>
>> Thanks for the update!
>>
>> Tyler
>> ________________________________
>> From: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 9:57 AM
>> To: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
>> Cc: Tyler Lemon <tlemon at jlab.org>; Xiangdong Wei <xwei at jlab.org>; Brian
>> Eng <beng at jlab.org>; dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>
>> Hi Tyler,
>>
>> The plan is to connect Zurich rack to the PD around noon today. I will
>> email you as soon as we have it set.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>>> Hi Tyler,
>>>
>>> Not yet unfortunately.  The target wasn't ready until late last night.
>>> Using Rack #1, we started running NMR around midnight and just finished
>>> the first run a few minutes ago. As soon as I get the newest schedule
>>> regarding the target, I will arrange to connect the Zurich Lock-In and
>>> let
>>> you know.
>>>
>>> I apologize this doesn't give you much time to try out the boxcar
>>> averager
>>> with an actual target.
>>>
>>> -Tom
>>>
>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>
>>>> Have you all had the chance to hook up the Zurich lock-in amplifier to
>>>> the
>>>> target?
>>>>
>>>> Tyler
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:12 AM
>>>> To: Tyler Lemon <tlemon at jlab.org>
>>>> Cc: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>; Xiangdong Wei
>>>> <xwei at jlab.org>;
>>>> Brian Eng <beng at jlab.org>; dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tyler,
>>>>
>>>> There was a delay in condensing a new target.  The gas being used
>>>> needed
>>>> to be purified.  I might be able to connect the cables this afternoon.
>>>> The Zurich Lock-In Amplifier will still be available for you to use in
>>>> the
>>>> mean time.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for letting me know. Glad to hear the activation went through
>>>>> without issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll take a look this afternoon to figure out the boxcar averager to
>>>>> save
>>>>> time when the cables are reconnected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tyler
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:27 PM
>>>>> To: Tyler Lemon <tlemon at jlab.org>
>>>>> Cc: Xiangdong Wei <xwei at jlab.org>; thomaso at jlab.org
>>>>> <thomaso at jlab.org>;
>>>>> Brian Eng <beng at jlab.org>; dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tyler,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Boxcar Averager feature is now unlocked in LabOne.  A new target
>>>>> is
>>>>> currently being condensed today in the production dewer, which
>>>>> requires
>>>>> the NMR cables be disconnected.  If you are interested in checking
>>>>> out
>>>>> the
>>>>> features without a target this afternoon, you are welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will let you know when the cables are reconnected and we are able
>>>>> to
>>>>> actually take measurements.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That seems like a good plan to me, too, since it avoids any
>>>>>> uncertainty
>>>>>> about the access privileges all together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: dsg-hdice <dsg-hdice-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of Xiangdong
>>>>>> Wei
>>>>>> <xwei at jlab.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 1:22:07 AM
>>>>>> To: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>; Brian Eng <beng at jlab.org>
>>>>>> Cc: dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds good to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Xiangdong
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: dsg-hdice <dsg-hdice-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of
>>>>>> thomaso at jlab.org
>>>>>> <thomaso at jlab.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 9:55 AM
>>>>>> To: Brian Eng <beng at jlab.org>
>>>>>> Cc: dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I emailed Ed about the situation and he offered a different
>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>> He
>>>>>> suggested connecting my personal laptop to the Lock-In amplifier
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> USB cable.  I could let him use my laptop to activate the device
>>>>>> features.
>>>>>> Once he activates the features, any PC that connects to the device
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> automatically have access to the new features.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this case, the earliest we could start the trial would be Tuesday
>>>>>> afternoon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tyler, I can make sure you have as much access to the device as
>>>>>> possible
>>>>>> to explore the new features before you go on vacation.  I can check
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> out in the evening and on the weekend when you are away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will contact Ed again and get back with an update.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless it is something already built in I don't think it's allowed,
>>>>>>> i.e.
>>>>>>> installing TeamViewer software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't seen anything that says you couldn't do a screen share
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>> someone else control (since Teams seems to at least have the
>>>>>>> possibility
>>>>>>> of doing that), but you might want to check with the CC to be sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: dsg-hdice <dsg-hdice-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of Tyler
>>>>>>> Lemon
>>>>>>> <tlemon at jlab.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 3:47 PM
>>>>>>> To: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>>> I'd be available anytime except for 11:00 - 12:00 for the Teams
>>>>>>> meeting
>>>>>>> with Ed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter and Brian,
>>>>>>> Just to maybe head off a problem, is using Teams to have an
>>>>>>> non-JLab
>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>> access a JLab PC allowable?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom, if the remote control aspect is not okay, would it be
>>>>>>> sufficient
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> Ed to remotely view my screen while I type and control the PC
>>>>>>> connected
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the lock-in amplifier?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 3:36 PM
>>>>>>> To: Tyler Lemon <tlemon at jlab.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>; dsg-hdice at jlab.org
>>>>>>> <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Tyler,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will ask Ed if we can start Monday.  He mentioned in his last
>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>> that to start the trial "This will require a computer connected to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> instrument that I can gain remote control over through teamviewer
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> activate the option."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I won't have access to a PC connected to the Lock-In amplifier
>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>> Tuesday.  Tyler, would you have access to a PC Monday?  If so,
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> have time on Monday to have a virtual meeting with Ed so he can
>>>>>>> activate
>>>>>>> the trial?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems like the best option would be to see if the trial period
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>> start on Monday. That way there'd be enough time for you all in
>>>>>>>> HDice
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> look into it, too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not think it would be possible to write a program for the
>>>>>>>> boxcar
>>>>>>>> averager during the one week trial period. Using the boxcar
>>>>>>>> averager
>>>>>>>> during the trial period would have to be done through "manual" set
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> what was shown in the demo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To not waste any part of the trial period, it might be a good idea
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>> talk to Ed and verify the best way to set up the signals for the
>>>>>>>> boxcar
>>>>>>>> averager. If I remember correctly from the demo, the signal
>>>>>>>> detected
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> the lock-in amplifier would need to be output through one of the
>>>>>>>> Zurich
>>>>>>>> lock-in amplifier's auxiliary outputs and then into the boxcar
>>>>>>>> averager
>>>>>>>> input.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: thomaso at jlab.org <thomaso at jlab.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Tyler Lemon <tlemon at jlab.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Tyler,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was speaking to Xiangdong today about our schedules.  We will be
>>>>>>>> starting Run 2 of the experiment by the 26th.  He believes him and
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> be too busy with running the experiment at UITF to be able to work
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Boxcar Averager at this point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He came up with two suggestions.  First would be to activate the
>>>>>>>> trial
>>>>>>>> possibly today (or more realistically Monday) if you have time to
>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>> checking out the Boxcar features before your vacation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The second option would be to start the trial on 10/26 when you
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> back.
>>>>>>>> Xiangdong pointed out that if we wait until then, it wouldn't give
>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> time before we'd need the device for taking actual measurements.
>>>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>>>> Xiangdong said we would have to let the DSG take over working with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Boxcar Averager since all our time will be devoted to Run 2 of the
>>>>>>>> experiment. He wasn't sure how long you would need to investigate
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> device/LabOne, write a program, and test before needing to take
>>>>>>>> actual
>>>>>>>> measurements.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think about the situation when you have a
>>>>>>>> chance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will be on vacation from 10/17 through 10/25, so would it be
>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> have trial period starting 10/26?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: dsg-hdice <dsg-hdice-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of
>>>>>>>>> thomaso at jlab.org
>>>>>>>>> <thomaso at jlab.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 12:15 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: dsg-hdice at jlab.org <dsg-hdice at jlab.org>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [dsg-hdice] Boxcar Averager Trial Dates
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Tyler,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm working with Ed, from Zurich, to schedule the 1 week trial
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Boxcar Averager.  I was thinking of asking the trial to be from
>>>>>>>>> Wednesday
>>>>>>>>> October 14th to Wednesday October 21st given the HDice schedule.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However I wanted to check with you and your group first to see if
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> time frame works with your schedules should you want to try out
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>> features?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>
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