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Hi Xiangdong,</div>
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I'll take a look at the program tomorrow morning. I do have some questions though.<br>
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Are the X_nmr and Y_nmr equations going to replace the other two scaled equations we discussed in the meeting?</div>
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Since those equations both have components that deal with the background, what should be done for X and Y when the background subtraction and scaling is not used? Currently, in that situation the program uses the equations X = R*cos(Phi) and Y = R* sin(Phi).
Should those be replaced with just the acquired X and Y?<br>
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Also, with the equation changes it's becoming less and less clear to me on the goal of the scaling. Can you provide an explanation of what the goal of the scaling is? Are we trying to replicate an online version of some offline calculation that has been done
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-Tyler<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 24, 2020 5:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tyler Lemon <tlemon@jlab.org>; thomaso@jlab.org <thomaso@jlab.org>; dsg-hdice@jlab.org <dsg-hdice@jlab.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [dsg-hdice] HDiceNMR2 availability?</font>
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Hi Tyler,</div>
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My test runs frequency from 39,700 kHz to 40,900 kHz with 1200 points.</div>
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It looks like the phase correction for signals with and without background are different, therefore they can not be simply subtracted (The live signals should be corrected with the background phase and then do subtraction and normalization). Maybe there is
an angle definition and we missed a 90 degree somewhere. The simplest way to deal with it right now (in a short time, straight forward) is ignore the background phase correction issue, and use acquired X and Y (again). Normalizing the NMR signals with:</div>
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X_nmr=R0bkgd*(X-X(bkgd))/R</div>
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Y_<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline!important">nmr=R0bkgd*(Y-Y(bkgd))/R</span></div>
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline!important">In this way, we can still see NMR signals on all 4 channels (r, Phi, X and Y) online. I will deal with phase correction offline. The phase
correction for the NMR signal is what we ultimately want in the end---that's part of the offline analysis in any case.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline!important">I'll not logon to the HDiceNMR2 PC today because my hands are tight on other HDice issues. You can log on to modify the fsNMR program any
time today and tomorrow morning, just let me know after you finish. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline!important">Thanks,</span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 24, 2020 3:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xiangdong Wei <xwei@jlab.org>; thomaso@jlab.org <thomaso@jlab.org>; dsg-hdice@jlab.org <dsg-hdice@jlab.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [dsg-hdice] HDiceNMR2 availability?</font>
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Hi Xiangdong,</div>
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I did look at the other two points. My answers are inline.<br>
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<span style="color:rgb(12,100,192)">1>. In the attached pictures this morning, the X and Y plots showed a fraction of a volt, while the R, X and Y were only a fraction of a milli volt.</span></div>
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When I changed the program to calculate the background X and Y, I used the equations X = R*cos(phase) and Y = R*sin(phase). This could be the cause, so if there's some other way to get X and Y for the background, it can be changed.<br>
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<span style="color:rgb(12,100,192)">2>. The infor windows on the attached background were blank during the run.</span></div>
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The info window fills out at the end of the run. It's always been empty for the first time you run the program after it is newly opened. After all cycles are completed, the program reads all the settings used and then fill out the text boxes.<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 24, 2020 3:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tyler Lemon <tlemon@jlab.org>; thomaso@jlab.org <thomaso@jlab.org>; dsg-hdice@jlab.org <dsg-hdice@jlab.org><br>
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Hi Tyler,</div>
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It's great that you finished adding the temperature sensors in the program. I'll test them in the next NMR run.</div>
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Have you had a chance to look at the issues I listed in this morning's email? 1>. In the attached pictures this morning, the X and Y plots showed a fraction of a volt, while the R, X and Y were only a fraction of a milli volt. 2>. The infor windows on the
attached background were blank during the run.</div>
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Thanks,</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 24, 2020 2:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xiangdong Wei <xwei@jlab.org>; thomaso@jlab.org <thomaso@jlab.org>; dsg-hdice@jlab.org <dsg-hdice@jlab.org><br>
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Hi Xiangdong,</div>
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I finished up adding the cryogenic monitoring to the fsNMR program.</div>
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The fsNMR program now continuously monitors the liquid helium temperature and level at a 1 Hz rate, regardless of whether there are sweeps occurring.<br>
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When you start the program, there is a new pop up window that asks whether you want to enable helium level/temperature monitoring and what to email addresses alerts should be sent to. If there is someone that should always get an email, I can add them as the
default so the program will always include them in the address list.<br>
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If either reading goes out of the bounds set on the Cryo Monitoring tab in the program, the program automatically sends an email. The email will have the subject line "HDice fsNMR Cryo has reached alarm limit" and state that one of the monitored conditions
went out of bounds and then list the conditions and the limits in a tab-and-comma separated table.</div>
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I am now logged off of HDiceNMR2, so it is available for you all to continue your tests.<br>
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Best regards,</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 24, 2020 12:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tyler Lemon <tlemon@jlab.org>; thomaso@jlab.org <thomaso@jlab.org>; dsg-hdice@jlab.org <dsg-hdice@jlab.org><br>
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Tyler,</div>
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Thank you for timely responding, I really appreciate it.</div>
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Same as in the field scan NMR program, the temperature log is for determine the thermal equilibrium polarization of H, D and F in PD conditions, where temperature and magnetic field of the target are well defined. For IBC, since it's too complicated to integrate
to data stream, the temperature measurements shouldn't be used (same as in regular NMR program).</div>
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When connected to PD-1 or PD-2 and the sensor readings are also used send warnings to operator only (since the magnet is in persistent current mode, which requires a complicated procedure and the full IPS control program to change the field, the fsNMR program
leave the magnet alone). The 1st alarm warning will trigger manual intervention immediately. (We have 2 people live onsite now.) For the future, we will add the magnet control functions, and test thoroughly before implementing, when the machine is not busy.</div>
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Thanks,</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 24, 2020 12:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> thomaso@jlab.org <thomaso@jlab.org>; Xiangdong Wei <xwei@jlab.org>; dsg-hdice@jlab.org <dsg-hdice@jlab.org><br>
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Hi Xiangdong,</div>
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I've added the basic cryogenic sensor logging to the fsNMR program.</div>
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What should the program do if the sensor readings go out of bounds?</div>
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In the previous NMR program, the NMR sweep was stopped and an email was sent to notify of the issue. For now, I'll make the fsNMR program do the same thing.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 24, 2020 10:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> thomaso@jlab.org <thomaso@jlab.org>; Xiangdong Wei <xwei@jlab.org><br>
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Okay, thank you Tom and Xiangdong.</div>
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I'll also take a look at the X and Y without background.<br>
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I'll let you all know when I'm done for the day.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 24, 2020 10:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tyler Lemon <tlemon@jlab.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [dsg-hdice] HDiceNMR2 availability?</font>
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<div class="x_x_x_x_x_x_x_PlainText">Hi Tyler,<br>
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Xiangdong is in a meeting and asked me to log off HDiceNMR2 so you could<br>
work on it. The PC is free for you to use now.<br>
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-Tom<br>
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> Hi Xiangdong,<br>
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> Would the PC HDiceNMR2 be available for remote log in today?<br>
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> If so, I can try to finish up adding the cryogenic sensor monitoring.<br>
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> The sensor monitoring is an extra feature and the fsNMR program is<br>
> completely runable without it, so there’s no problem if the PC is being<br>
> used.<br>
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> -Tyler<br>
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