[Erd108] [External] Re: [External] eRD108 weekly meeting - Thursday 09/14 at 9 am

Thu Sep 14 13:18:23 EDT 2023

Very interesting, Matt. That looks a lot better.

Do most of the hits appear in the center of the drift gap? Also, what about the inner MPGD? Did you fix a similar bug there?

Thanks,

Marcus

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From: Erd108 <erd108-bounces at jlab.org> On Behalf Of Matthew Posik
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To: BOSSU Francesco <francesco.bossu at cea.fr>; Kondo Gnanvo <kagnanvo at jlab.org>; erd108 at jlab.org
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Subject: Re: [Erd108] [External] Re: [External] eRD108 weekly meeting - Thursday 09/14 at 9 am

Hi All,

The bug I reported in today's meeting regarding the angular resolution studies, turns out I just stupidly plotted the wrong quantity on slide one. I was plotting the radial values of the outer MPGD hits, but this outer layer is a planar tracker. Slides 2 and 3, I now plot outer MPGD x vs y hits and things look as I was expecting them to, where the sensitive volumes correspond to the 3mm drift gap. So, there should be no bug in the analysis presented, just an early morning plotting mistake.

Updated slides: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_scl_fi_tloqqk0rpzmoa3102jjt1_09-2D07-2D23-2DeRD108-2DAngleResolution.pptx-3Frlkey-3Dnexxuzwrfw6x9z8h4ldaz2676-26dl-3D0&d=DwIFAg&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=6nBhCQ9asnI7Gb72jBWQ4g&m=cEoUQfqhfauW8O9PdVC_EM-eH7JCSqKVi0bFGpNWCJ8G4WApoYC0P4LVdbiXjInB&s=m85j-TVdsx8vWSXnpjnXheVlESoB8Q7Co0Uh2jkjDe4&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_scl_fi_tloqqk0rpzmoa3102jjt1_09-2D07-2D23-2DeRD108-2DAngleResolution.pptx-3Frlkey-3Dnexxuzwrfw6x9z8h4ldaz2676-26dl-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=6nBhCQ9asnI7Gb72jBWQ4g&m=92D7zMPeqU7fT5ezHDQFgHd5S9qPbmSf1HDV7WnYw-bkJ0zNR6yT778MKczPKA1V&s=MQGiKWuN9dbYDHhkylDh1cWtjyrg_y-g4xM2RbvEdC4&e=>

Our discussion today was good and I have a few items to investigate:

  1.  What happens if we take the outer MPGD out of the track reconstruction
  2.  What happens to the angular resolution if the outer MPGD is removed from the simulation (material and all) --> need new material map
  3.  Modifying the 3mm DIRC space point used as the "true" hit value in the first angular resolution method
Additionally, I will follow up with software experts on how to:

  1.  Assess GEANT information and possible adjust parameters such as the step size and how GEANT output propagates into dd4hep output
  2.  How to best collect ionizations per track in the gas volume and have their average position be outputed as the hit, which will then enter a digitization stage and then used in the track reconstruction.
Any additional comments or suggestions are welcomed.

Thanks,
Matt

Matt Posik
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Subject: [External] Re: [Erd108] [External] eRD108 weekly meeting - Thursday 09/14 at 9 am

Hi Kondo

I'm sorry, I won't be able to attend today

Francesco

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Subject: Re: [Erd108] [External] eRD108 weekly meeting - Thursday 09/14 at 9 am

Ok, great.

I will put you first in the agenda

Kondo

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Subject: Re: [External] [Erd108] eRD108 weekly meeting - Thursday 09/14 at 9 am

Hi Kondo,

I would like to give an update on what has been done so far in studying how the outer mpgd barrel layer spatial resolution affects the angular resolutions. I was also asked to provide an update on this at Monday's TIC meeting.

Thanks,

Matt

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Subject: [External] [Erd108] eRD108 weekly meeting - Thursday 09/14 at 9 am

Dear all,

We will have our regular eRD108 meeting tomorrow 09/14 at 9 am

I don't have any thing special on the agenda other than

  *   a scheduled meeting in the afternoon tomorrow with the Bryan Eng, Elke etc .. to discuss design issue ==> everyone is free to join the discussion
  *   I am ask to give an update on Thin Gap MPGD at the TIC meeting on Monday 18

See meeting details below:

Wiki : https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.bnl.gov_eic_index.php_Eic-2Drd-2Dmeeting&d=DwIFAg&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=6nBhCQ9asnI7Gb72jBWQ4g&m=cEoUQfqhfauW8O9PdVC_EM-eH7JCSqKVi0bFGpNWCJ8G4WApoYC0P4LVdbiXjInB&s=R_Z4uJ9Je-l028_48IG3H4NXEPJU-3H2d6SYPmP6bDk&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.bnl.gov_eic_index.php_Eic-2Drd-2Dmeeting&d=DwMF-g&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=8RkWGK8Ehr23aQ4XZaeJkKhdeUjRK7rjlS9Ivaen0wM&m=1b60EvIEaDvwTCvFf25-XYFEH-6TtrsakUczEQkJFo2wqYyMqTxJi5mBJqGE2JM2&s=OWNZa9_ThoMFROSsixjNDp5kv_WQ-6n7tyLlGdqzemk&e=>

Indico: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.bnl.gov_event_20580_&d=DwIFAg&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=6nBhCQ9asnI7Gb72jBWQ4g&m=cEoUQfqhfauW8O9PdVC_EM-eH7JCSqKVi0bFGpNWCJ8G4WApoYC0P4LVdbiXjInB&s=xCySFQ_fn0DBWXqdi6M_WVucbF9vp6VHpjh-DVXztVw&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.bnl.gov_event_20580_&d=DwMF-g&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=8RkWGK8Ehr23aQ4XZaeJkKhdeUjRK7rjlS9Ivaen0wM&m=1b60EvIEaDvwTCvFf25-XYFEH-6TtrsakUczEQkJFo2wqYyMqTxJi5mBJqGE2JM2&s=3xnege3c7xjw1xHsAEVLVxu8fXIPDV6MQH6iNgN4l6M&e=>

Zoom: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__virginia.zoom.us_j_91920338307-3Fpwd-3DTEF3VDhlVUN0UnBIY0xkeWxqMXprQT09&d=DwIFAg&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=6nBhCQ9asnI7Gb72jBWQ4g&m=cEoUQfqhfauW8O9PdVC_EM-eH7JCSqKVi0bFGpNWCJ8G4WApoYC0P4LVdbiXjInB&s=-coHi7-OxumR0YWDVWjnK1MpMYm8rakFt-9CR5SOrOA&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__virginia.zoom.us_j_91920338307-3Fpwd-3DTEF3VDhlVUN0UnBIY0xkeWxqMXprQT09&d=DwMF-g&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=8RkWGK8Ehr23aQ4XZaeJkKhdeUjRK7rjlS9Ivaen0wM&m=1b60EvIEaDvwTCvFf25-XYFEH-6TtrsakUczEQkJFo2wqYyMqTxJi5mBJqGE2JM2&s=C9b2ytJ4yAXLqfXRg_BiB6CcQAuzMbdaL9NQNiVwZNU&e=>

Best regards

Kondo
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