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<div dir="ltr">Hi Alexander, </div>
<div dir="ltr">I see your point, but in that case I would argue that since the design and tooling are already available, we can just request funding for the fabrication of the uRWELL PCB from CERN if you think a full detector could be assembled within a year. </div>
<div dir="ltr">This way, we still get to complete the R&D on the cylindrical in parallel </div>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">We are already in the process of testing that medium-size with the cylindrical detector, so I don’t think there is much point to flattening it out and building yet another intermediate-size
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<b>To:</b> Kondo Gnanvo <kagnanvo@jlab.org>; Matthew Posik <posik@temple.edu>; erd108@jlab.org; Woody, Craig <woody@bnl.gov>; Azmoun, Bob <azmoun@bnl.gov>; Tarafdar, Sourav <sourav.tarafdar@vanderbilt.edu>; Huong Nguyen <htn3r.uva@gmail.com>; Marcus Hohlmann
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black"> actually, after some thinking, I still don't understand why cannot we propose reusing the existing cylindrical prototype foils in a flat configuration, in addition
to building a large dummy mockup, in the same proposal. The rationale is that indeed one year is not enough to build a large one, fine, but what's wrong about pretending we test a medium size one on the readout side, as an intermediate step to whatever happens
past FY24, along with exploring mechanical and Co limitations of a full size detector? Then, whatever happens after FY24, we claim that we know how to build large frames, and we know that a reasonable size uRWell with a sparse readout works, beyond which point
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><b><span lang="FR" style="color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="FR" style="color:black"> Kiselev, Alexander <<a href="mailto:ayk@bnl.gov">ayk@bnl.gov</a>><br>
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<b>To:</b> Kondo Gnanvo <<a href="mailto:kagnanvo@jlab.org">kagnanvo@jlab.org</a>>;
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black"> unless the meeting took place at 2pm already, hat is the zoom link?</span><span lang="FR"></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 5, 2023 9:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:erd108@jlab.org">erd108@jlab.org</a> <<a href="mailto:erd108@jlab.org">erd108@jlab.org</a>>; Woody, Craig <<a href="mailto:woody@bnl.gov">woody@bnl.gov</a>>; Azmoun, Bob <<a href="mailto:azmoun@bnl.gov">azmoun@bnl.gov</a>>; Tarafdar,
Sourav <<a href="mailto:sourav.tarafdar@vanderbilt.edu">sourav.tarafdar@vanderbilt.edu</a>>; Huong Nguyen <<a href="mailto:htn3r.uva@gmail.com">htn3r.uva@gmail.com</a>>; Marcus Hohlmann <<a href="mailto:hohlmann@fit.edu">hohlmann@fit.edu</a>>; Nikolai Smirnov
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