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Yes, the majority of the hits appear in the center of the drift volume. For the inner MPGD, since it is truly curved plotting the radius vs z should be fine, so what I see in the left-hand plot (note the vertical scale) on slide 1 is what I was expecting to
 see: a 3mm sensitive area with majority of the hits at the center. But for completeness slide 4 shows the x vs y hits for the inner MPGD.</div>
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Thanks,<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 14, 2023 1:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Posik <posik@temple.edu>; BOSSU Francesco <francesco.bossu@cea.fr>; Kondo Gnanvo <kagnanvo@jlab.org>; erd108@jlab.org <erd108@jlab.org><br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">Do most of the hits appear in the center of the drift gap? Also, what about the inner MPGD? Did you fix a similar bug there?</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 14, 2023 12:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> BOSSU Francesco <francesco.bossu@cea.fr>; Kondo Gnanvo <kagnanvo@jlab.org>; erd108@jlab.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Azmoun, Bob <azmoun@bnl.gov>; Huong Nguyen <htn3r.uva@gmail.com>; Nikolai Smirnov <nikolai.smirnov@yale.edu><br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">The bug I reported in today's meeting regarding the angular resolution studies, turns out I just stupidly plotted the wrong quantity on slide one. I was plotting the radial values of the outer
 MPGD hits, but this outer layer is a planar tracker. Slides 2 and 3, I now plot outer MPGD x vs y hits and things look as I was expecting them to, where the sensitive volumes correspond to the 3mm drift gap. So, there should be no bug in the analysis presented,
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 14, 2023 8:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kondo Gnanvo <<a href="mailto:kagnanvo@jlab.org">kagnanvo@jlab.org</a>>; Matthew Posik <<a href="mailto:posik@temple.edu">posik@temple.edu</a>>;
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<b>Cc:</b> Azmoun, Bob <<a href="mailto:azmoun@bnl.gov">azmoun@bnl.gov</a>>; Huong Nguyen <<a href="mailto:htn3r.uva@gmail.com">htn3r.uva@gmail.com</a>>; Nikolai Smirnov <<a href="mailto:nikolai.smirnov@yale.edu">nikolai.smirnov@yale.edu</a>><br>
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<p><span lang="FR" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Hi Kondo</span></p>
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<p><span lang="FR" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">I'm sorry, I won't be able to attend today</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="FR" style="color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="FR" style="color:black"> Erd108 <<a href="mailto:erd108-bounces@jlab.org">erd108-bounces@jlab.org</a>> on behalf of Kondo Gnanvo <<a href="mailto:kagnanvo@jlab.org">kagnanvo@jlab.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 14 September 2023 00:20:49<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Posik; <a href="mailto:erd108@jlab.org">erd108@jlab.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Azmoun, Bob; Huong Nguyen; Nikolai Smirnov<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Erd108] [External] eRD108 weekly meeting - Thursday 09/14 at 9 am</span><span lang="FR">
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span lang="FR">Ok, great. </span></p>
<p class="x_xmsonormal">I will put you first in the agenda <span lang="FR"></span></p>
<p class="x_xmsonormal">Kondo<span lang="FR"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><b>From:</b> Matthew Posik <<a href="mailto:posik@temple.edu">posik@temple.edu</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 13, 2023 6:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kondo Gnanvo <<a href="mailto:kagnanvo@jlab.org">kagnanvo@jlab.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:erd108@jlab.org">erd108@jlab.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Azmoun, Bob <<a href="mailto:azmoun@bnl.gov">azmoun@bnl.gov</a>>; Huong Nguyen <<a href="mailto:htn3r.uva@gmail.com">htn3r.uva@gmail.com</a>>; Nikolai Smirnov <<a href="mailto:nikolai.smirnov@yale.edu">nikolai.smirnov@yale.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [External] [Erd108] eRD108 weekly meeting - Thursday 09/14 at 9 am<span lang="FR"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span lang="FR">Hi Kondo,</span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span lang="FR">I would like to give an update on what has been done so far in studying how the outer mpgd barrel layer spatial resolution affects the angular resolutions. I was also asked to provide an update on this at Monday's TIC
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><span lang="FR">Thanks,</span></p>
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<p class="x_xmsonormal"><b><span lang="FR" style="color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="FR" style="color:black"> Erd108 <<a href="mailto:erd108-bounces@jlab.org">erd108-bounces@jlab.org</a>> on behalf of Kondo Gnanvo <<a href="mailto:kagnanvo@jlab.org">kagnanvo@jlab.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:59:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:erd108@jlab.org">erd108@jlab.org</a> <<a href="mailto:erd108@jlab.org">erd108@jlab.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Azmoun, Bob <<a href="mailto:azmoun@bnl.gov">azmoun@bnl.gov</a>>; Huong Nguyen <<a href="mailto:htn3r.uva@gmail.com">htn3r.uva@gmail.com</a>>; Nikolai Smirnov <<a href="mailto:nikolai.smirnov@yale.edu">nikolai.smirnov@yale.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [External] [Erd108] eRD108 weekly meeting - Thursday 09/14 at 9 am</span><span lang="FR">
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal"><span lang="FR">Dear all, </span></p>
<p class="x_xxmsonormal">We will have our regular eRD108 meeting tomorrow 09/14 at 9 am<span lang="FR"></span></p>
<p class="x_xxmsonormal">I don’t have any thing special on the agenda other than <span lang="FR">
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<li class="x_xxmsolistparagraph" style="margin-left:0in">a scheduled meeting in the afternoon tomorrow with the Bryan Eng, Elke etc .. to discuss design issue
<span style="font-family:Wingdings">è</span> everyone is free to join the discussion<span lang="FR"></span></li><li class="x_xxmsolistparagraph" style="margin-left:0in">I am ask to give an update on Thin Gap MPGD at the TIC meeting on Monday 18
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal">See meeting details below:<span lang="FR"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal">Wiki : <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.bnl.gov_eic_index.php_Eic-2Drd-2Dmeeting&d=DwMF-g&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=8RkWGK8Ehr23aQ4XZaeJkKhdeUjRK7rjlS9Ivaen0wM&m=1b60EvIEaDvwTCvFf25-XYFEH-6TtrsakUczEQkJFo2wqYyMqTxJi5mBJqGE2JM2&s=OWNZa9_ThoMFROSsixjNDp5kv_WQ-6n7tyLlGdqzemk&e=" originalsrc="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.bnl.gov_eic_index.php_Eic-2Drd-2Dmeeting&d=DwMF-g&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=8RkWGK8Ehr23aQ4XZaeJkKhdeUjRK7rjlS9Ivaen0wM&m=1b60EvIEaDvwTCvFf25-XYFEH-6TtrsakUczEQkJFo2wqYyMqTxJi5mBJqGE2JM2&s=OWNZa9_ThoMFROSsixjNDp5kv_WQ-6n7tyLlGdqzemk&e=" shash="XdcCsBzW2xMsJwro3AUFr1AvqiPvFzFU4QwzqJDOBKfGEcpl4D6JfL/rSHxVBRDYcfkhpuzicCAWWEJVVl6bJNiwg8PxXt9BKTqE7zxBmtSTxS95JzXUX9iKF0jExm/d28BSSVZcbGcYXMXxr8MnV2HGFP7Lntl1yk9GHbIgMz8=">
https://wiki.bnl.gov/eic/index.php/Eic-rd-meeting</a> <span lang="FR"></span></p>
<p class="x_xxmsonormal">Indico: <span lang="FR"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.bnl.gov_event_20580_&d=DwMF-g&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=8RkWGK8Ehr23aQ4XZaeJkKhdeUjRK7rjlS9Ivaen0wM&m=1b60EvIEaDvwTCvFf25-XYFEH-6TtrsakUczEQkJFo2wqYyMqTxJi5mBJqGE2JM2&s=3xnege3c7xjw1xHsAEVLVxu8fXIPDV6MQH6iNgN4l6M&e=" originalsrc="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.bnl.gov_event_20580_&d=DwMF-g&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=8RkWGK8Ehr23aQ4XZaeJkKhdeUjRK7rjlS9Ivaen0wM&m=1b60EvIEaDvwTCvFf25-XYFEH-6TtrsakUczEQkJFo2wqYyMqTxJi5mBJqGE2JM2&s=3xnege3c7xjw1xHsAEVLVxu8fXIPDV6MQH6iNgN4l6M&e=" shash="pZIqJP2QwCLSgFvvbazdSfLZuHwCcBop+ImZjQA10uVYuYuSNbZjzK8m9AgCAmFPWN6ZlBm8drAkfPmjiXbODCpYw1wW0XmfbZarBO2BmPox0/YawAM+5XfW4Bov5EDjyPXw3NPKdSOgmQyDzmJUSO2w9B/WL5SuBG9SSKWTPjQ="><span lang="EN-US">https://indico.bnl.gov/event/20580/</span></a>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal">Zoom: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__virginia.zoom.us_j_91920338307-3Fpwd-3DTEF3VDhlVUN0UnBIY0xkeWxqMXprQT09&d=DwMF-g&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=8RkWGK8Ehr23aQ4XZaeJkKhdeUjRK7rjlS9Ivaen0wM&m=1b60EvIEaDvwTCvFf25-XYFEH-6TtrsakUczEQkJFo2wqYyMqTxJi5mBJqGE2JM2&s=C9b2ytJ4yAXLqfXRg_BiB6CcQAuzMbdaL9NQNiVwZNU&e=" originalsrc="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__virginia.zoom.us_j_91920338307-3Fpwd-3DTEF3VDhlVUN0UnBIY0xkeWxqMXprQT09&d=DwMF-g&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=8RkWGK8Ehr23aQ4XZaeJkKhdeUjRK7rjlS9Ivaen0wM&m=1b60EvIEaDvwTCvFf25-XYFEH-6TtrsakUczEQkJFo2wqYyMqTxJi5mBJqGE2JM2&s=C9b2ytJ4yAXLqfXRg_BiB6CcQAuzMbdaL9NQNiVwZNU&e=" shash="vpJh1FpghweQYufBjyZlzkln/BM+KU7mCOjkBnoEMawcFxIwWUso/x/DaRh1kp7tXSVTqlWcFS3V1OK87uwQwCQJnR31tG8/FrbjKuJr4oczThjCzyeFcl/dllTvAplBpVS4Fm/PV4Y3Su92EsHWBEQnETSRLfSq3qjMH7QU4VY=">
https://virginia.zoom.us/j/91920338307?pwd=TEF3VDhlVUN0UnBIY0xkeWxqMXprQT09</a><span lang="FR"></span></p>
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<p class="x_xxmsonormal">Best regards <span lang="FR"></span></p>
<p class="x_xxmsonormal">Kondo<span lang="FR"></span></p>
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