<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Michael,</div><div><br></div><div>We have been trough this several times and I am afraid we will never agree on these fine-tuning parameters. On the other hand, as long as the actual code is the same, I believe we can live with somewhat different pull and CL distributions … provided they look okay.</div><div><br></div><div>- Volker</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:11 PM, "Michael C. Kunkel" <<a href="mailto:mkunkel@jlab.org">mkunkel@jlab.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
  
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    This is obvious, and hence why Lei asked for everyone to show their
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Forschungszentrum Jülich
Nuclear Physics Institute and Juelich Center for Hadron Physics
Experimental Hadron Structure (IKP-1)
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      Apparently, there is more to it … Our distributions look better.
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          <div>On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Michael C. Kunkel <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mkunkel@jlab.org"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mkunkel@jlab.org">mkunkel@jlab.org</a>>
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              a diff on the codes from FSU and the one shown there is no
              difference in any file.<br>
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Michael C. Kunkel, PhD
Forschungszentrum Jülich
Nuclear Physics Institute and Juelich Center for Hadron Physics
Experimental Hadron Structure (IKP-1)
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.fz-juelich.de/ikp">www.fz-juelich.de/ikp</a></pre>
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                <div>I don't think this is what FSU uses for the pions …
                  Our pulls and CL distribution look slightly better.</div>
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                    <div>On Dec 16, 2015, at 5:49 AM, Michael C. Kunkel
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                        Greetings, <br>
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                        Below is a link that shows the pull probability
                        and pull distributions look like for the tune
                        channel of p pip pim. These parameters are what
                        FSU, ODU, Bochum, and others use for pions. <br>
                        We had agreed that the pull distributions were
                        adequate if the pull probability is adequate. 
                        However as you can see from the plot, there is a
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                        What do you think about this?
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Forschungszentrum Jülich
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Experimental Hadron Structure (IKP-1)
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