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<div class="">I agree with Susan’s question(s). A novel approach to CLAS authorship needs to go through the CLAS Coordinating Committee and requires a collaboration-wide discussion. </div>
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<div class="">I don’t see what we are trying to accomplish here. There was nothing special about the g12 experiment that would justify a new authorship procedure. Quite the contrary, the proposed unique approach would raise all kinds of ethical concerns. From
 a personal point of view, I already find the usual first-authorship system somewhat questionable. A three-tier system would give extra credit to the g12 run group but simultaneously, would send a strong message to the rest of the collaboration.</div>
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<div class="">Please remove the FSU people from the secondary lead author list.</div>
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<div class="">On Oct 18, 2017, at 3:21 AM, Susan Schadmand <<a href="mailto:s.schadmand@fz-juelich.de" class="">s.schadmand@fz-juelich.de</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p class="">just a naive question - why do we need this, is the authorship not defined via rules of the collaboration?<br class="">
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Regards,
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As promised, please check the summary for today’s discussion on the g12 publication authorship. Please let me know if you see some wording that needs to be changed.
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<div class="">Thanks!</div>
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