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<div class="">Just a comment on the possibility of merging after the LOI stage: I do not think this would be realistic or desirable.</div>
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<div class="">A merger at that stage would most likely be initiated/directed “administratively”, by the program manager, Lab management, etc.</div>
<div class="">This would not help with addressing any of the sensitive issues that we discussed today, rather the opposite.</div>
<div class="">In such a situation the party that looks stronger “on paper” will have much more leverage.</div>
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<div class="">Also, we need to focus our energies on the “final” proposal that will enter in the actual competition.</div>
<div class="">Any doubling of effort, posturing, etc. at this stage will strongly diminish the chances of success.</div>
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<div class="">Our best chance to achieve a merger that is acceptable to us and practical going forward is now.</div>
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<div class="">On Jan 20, 2022, at 12:37 PM, Alberto Accardi <<a href="mailto:accardi@jlab.org" class="">accardi@jlab.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">the document should not feel like we are dictating conditions sine qua non, yet be explicit on what we think a good structure should be (not top-down, dictator-style, for example, which seemed the consensus
during this morning's meeting.)</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">The Call for Proposals explicitly mentions that the TopCol should be a "hub for networking". This is very much contrary to the top-down style that quite clearly Xiangdong is effectively forcing. He should be
made to understand that. If the merged proposal reads like a CNF add-on it will be a loser, I think. Better putting in 2 different proposals. (And, personally and scientifically, I would not be much interested in collaborating in a top-down structure. In
a "networking, collaborative atmosphere? Definitely, which is why I like the present group.)</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Maybe I am naive here, but the proposal submission is in 2 steps. Is it imperative to form 1 merged collaboration already at the LOI stage? If the differences between the 2 groups are not reconcilable by Feb
28, why not submitting 2 separate LOIs? We could propose the structure and aims we think are good and answer the call as we see it best. Then the program manager can come back to us all, with some directions - quite likely suggesting merging collaborations,
but also highlighting strengths and weaknesses on either part. That might then become the basis for a merger, not personal or political considerations as it is happening now.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Best,</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 11:46 AM Andreas Metz <<a href="mailto:andreas.metz@temple.edu" class="">andreas.metz@temple.edu</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<li class=""><span class="">Ideally the document won't be too long.</span></li><li class=""><span class="">Some sort of a steering committee seems unavoidable for the effort.
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collaboration may or may not agree on a rotating system or an election later.) </span></li></ol>
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<div class="">Dear All,<br class="">
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We had a very long and productive discussion this morning.<br class="">
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If there is to be a merger with the other team, we would need to draft something to send them that encapsulates the structure we would like to see. Christian, Ian, Martha and I will work on that over the next few hours in advance of our meeting at 530pm this
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To be most effective, it would be helpful if you could send any thoughts (eg as per the email of Kostas) by 1230pm today which we can then attempt to integrate into our draft.<br class="">
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Christian, David, Ian and Martha<br class="">
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