[Hadstruct] [EXTERNAL] Further work with NNPDF

[Savvas Zafeiropoulos]

Yeah absolutely! Nobody suggested sharing our pristine distillation results
with non-hadstruc people before publication!
Of course it would be better to discuss this live in our zoom call...

Regards,
Savvas

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:17 PM Joseph Karpie <jmkarpie at email.wm.edu> wrote:

> Savvas is right that when I said "when they are finalized" I was thinking
> after publication.
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 1:06 PM Savvas Zafeiropoulos <savvaslz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think Joe's suggestion is to do something with NNPDF after we publish
>> our distillation data alone as hadstruc...
>> From both the heavy and lighter pion masses...
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:03 PM Konstantinos Orginos <kostas at jlab.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In my view we should first let Colin write the paper publish it and then
>>> discuss further collaboration with NNPDF.
>>> By  adding new authors to a paper that is nearly complete is not in the
>>> best interests of  our own graduates students who  worked hard on this
>>> project
>>> and deserve a first take in analysing and publishing the data without
>>> external interference.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Kostas.
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Sep 22, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Joseph Karpie <jkarpie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hey everyone,
>>> >
>>> > As some of you may know, a few of us are wrapping up a paper with
>>> Luigi Del Debbio and Tommaso Giana (NNPDF people) where they reanalyse our
>>> Gaussian smeared results using their tools. Tommaso sent around a number of
>>> suggestions for things to begin studying next, such as studying fit forms
>>> and using only high or low Ioffe time data.
>>> >
>>> > They have experience using sophisticated methods to perform the
>>> inverse and ways of accounting for systematic errors which can be very
>>> useful to us. I think we should discuss Friday what future work we would
>>> like to be doing with them.
>>> >
>>> > For example, I'd like to do a comparison of our Gaussian smeared
>>> results with the distillation results that have been made on the same
>>> ensemble when they are finalized. My thought is that the data are more or
>>> less consistent, but Colin's fits appear to have significantly better
>>> agreement with pheno results in the x > 0.5 region than my own fits or
>>> Tommaso's NNPDF fits to the Gaussian smeared data. I want to understand
>>> what difference between the results created this dramatic improvement. I
>>> believe working with NNPDF would make this task significantly easier due to
>>> their experience and tools.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Joe
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