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Hi Pavel,</div>
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Thanks for the clarifications.</div>
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As far as you reproduced the SLAC</div>
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results with the FLUKA it creates high</div>
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level of confidence to the FLUKA</div>
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simulations. Therefore, we have a clear reason to trust</div>
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FLUKA simulation results for KLF beam flux of 6.8 kHz.</div>
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On this note I believe we arrived to the clear </div>
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conclusion about the flux for now, unless someone </div>
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proposes another clever idea that we haven't explored yet.</div>
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Compared to 10 kHz written in the proposal we</div>
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will have about 16% higher stat error.</div>
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It is unrealistic for any proposal to claim stat error </div>
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with a better precision. </div>
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p.s. I think you should share your plots reproducing the SLAC</div>
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measurements. Probably not everyone saw them.</div>
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Best regards,</div>
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Hi Moskov,</div>
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Yes, with the refinement that 6 cm beam pipe inner diameter is from the end of the CuW plug until about half of the beam pipe, and 5.5 cm diameter for the downstream ~half of the pipe.</div>
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I should also note that the KL spectrum on HD target is expected to be different than the spectrum from the SLAC paper, more flat and more extended to higher energies. In that respect, the rate of 2 GeV/c KLs will probably be lower than expected and the rate
of 4 GeV/c KLs will probably be higher.</div>
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Pavel,</div>
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Once more, are you saying that with </div>
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20% radiator, 6 cm diameter and 14 cm</div>
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tungsten plug your number of the flux</div>
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is 6.8 kHz?</div>
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Best regards,</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 23, 2024 9:32 PM<br>
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Hi All,</div>
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I apologize for the confusion, in the last presentation all plots and values are presented for the case of 20% radiator and 14 cm CuW block, not 10% radiator. I hadn't update the title properly. The number for KL flux for 10% and 10 cm CuW was close to that
6.8 kHz also from the previous calculations (with larger stat. errors). Sorry again.</div>
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Best regards,</div>
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<b>To:</b> Hovanes Egiyan <hovanes@jlab.org>; halld-klf-beam@jlab.org <halld-klf-beam@jlab.org><br>
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Here's my today's presentation</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 17, 2024 8:35 AM<br>
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Hi, </div>
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We will have a KLF beamline meeting on Thursday, December 19<sup>th</sup> , at 9am using Zoom (see information below). I posted the preliminary agenda of the meeting on the KLF wiki:</div>
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Please, feel free to add items to the agenda or let me know if you would like to discuss a topic. </div>
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