[Halld-offline] [EXTERNAL] Re: Software Meeting Minutes, December 10, 2019

Mark-Macrae Dalton dalton at jlab.org
Wed Dec 11 11:36:15 EST 2019 

Hi Richard,

Yes, it seems not to have registered.  Can you explain how to avoid the following failure which happens when using the utput of this generator with hdgeant4, hd_dump and hd_root?

Thanks,
Mark



Opening source "output.hddm" of type: HDDM
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error'
  what():  hddm_s::istream::collide warning:
tag HDDM in input file does not match c++ header hddm_s.hpp
  input file: <HDDM class="mc_s" version="1.0" xmlns="http://www.gluex.org/hddm">
  c++ header: <HDDM class="s" version="1.0" xmlns="http://www.gluex.org/hddm">
  === Tag HDDM will be ignored, rebuild to cure the problem ===
Aborted




On Dec 10, 2019, at 9:15 PM, Richard Jones <richard.t.jones at uconn.edu<mailto:richard.t.jones at uconn.edu>> wrote:

Hello Mark,

Please correct the following: The part that says, "Cannot grok these events" should be changed to "CAN grok these events". Any app built against a hddm model with a _s suffix in the name CAN read these files. I explained this to Mark by email, but perhaps it did not register.

-Richard
genBH and Non-Standard HDDM Output Data

Mark D. reported problems with genBH, an optionally built event generator from the HDGeant4 repository. It produces output in the hddm_mc_s schema of HDDM and not in the usual hddm_s schema. Programs downstream of event generation cannot grok these events. He has modified a private version to use hddm_s. The package requires Richard's Dirac++ package, which we do not build as part of the standard software stack. There was discussion, not conclusive, about whether the modified version should be put into some other repository, presumably halld_sim.

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:56 PM Mark Ito <marki at jlab.org<mailto:marki at jlab.org>> wrote:

Please find the minutes here<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fhalldweb.jlab.org-252Fwiki-252Findex.php-252FGlueX-5FSoftware-5FMeeting-252C-5FDecember-5F10-252C-5F2019-2523Minutes-26data-3D02-257C01-257Crichard.t.jones-2540uconn.edu-257C0c13209e2aa840b8cdc908d77ddd5075-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637116261811396766-26sdata-3Dqv8emiP-252FzVpeU8nYP42H26sjfsDkRxD5kM-252Fx7a3P9q4-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=Te_hCR4EUlJ6iCDYLJ8Viv2aDOR7D9ZZMoBAvf2H0M4&m=mbUhcYzw7SPqFzGhQh7Vj7JGcNl51y97tZRPeyvMxEA&s=62lJhndykTtLQAsTLzckzfuN9juXdBp5sqaD1R7Qwuw&e=> and below.

GlueX Software Meeting, December 10, 2019, Minutes

Present:

  *   JLab: Alex Austregesilo, Thomas Britton, Mark Dalton, Mark Ito (chair), Igal Jaegle, Naomi Jarvis, David Lawrence, Keigo Mizutani, Justin Stevens, Simon Taylor, Beni Zihlmann
  *   FSU: Sean Dobbs

There is a recording of his meeting<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fbluejeans.com-252Fs-252F60-25406B-252F-26data-3D02-257C01-257Crichard.t.jones-2540uconn.edu-257C0c13209e2aa840b8cdc908d77ddd5075-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637116261811406757-26sdata-3D0qxMs8GwH3qBaEoRcpx1rfnn7lB7zsF-252B95Zp22cRS1g-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=Te_hCR4EUlJ6iCDYLJ8Viv2aDOR7D9ZZMoBAvf2H0M4&m=mbUhcYzw7SPqFzGhQh7Vj7JGcNl51y97tZRPeyvMxEA&s=4L_mPdUV3zlo0SRhceL5y98GdH-G-HrNBXlRSii0lJg&e=> on the BlueJeans site. Use your JLab credentials to access it.

Announcements

  1.  From the Computer Center: CentOS 7.7 update and post-Thanksgiving plans<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fmailman.jlab.org-252Fpipermail-252Fhalld-2Doffline-252F2019-2DNovember-252F003825.html-26data-3D02-257C01-257Crichard.t.jones-2540uconn.edu-257C0c13209e2aa840b8cdc908d77ddd5075-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637116261811406757-26sdata-3DoWlvY6-252BRYjioOdKmDaY79BVOayHi1wzBO-252FERiFCdxXk-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=Te_hCR4EUlJ6iCDYLJ8Viv2aDOR7D9ZZMoBAvf2H0M4&m=mbUhcYzw7SPqFzGhQh7Vj7JGcNl51y97tZRPeyvMxEA&s=Oi57S-3L6PxFEF5eoDWQ8ZFUKiSfwhD-fJVM0RVEENY&e=>: New AMD farm nodes and more Lustre space.
  2.  GlueX Software build for JLab CentOS 7.7<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fmailman.jlab.org-252Fpipermail-252Fhalld-2Doffline-252F2019-2DDecember-252F003832.html-26data-3D02-257C01-257Crichard.t.jones-2540uconn.edu-257C0c13209e2aa840b8cdc908d77ddd5075-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637116261811416751-26sdata-3DUlurhzdH-252FEW63hGV5ffCtNrFp8zZwIZwfttnaeQStkI-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=Te_hCR4EUlJ6iCDYLJ8Viv2aDOR7D9ZZMoBAvf2H0M4&m=mbUhcYzw7SPqFzGhQh7Vj7JGcNl51y97tZRPeyvMxEA&s=K8UMaPTKtKCZm53sB3_cQu5MCMiNdkYQpTp-B0u9YVk&e=>: CentOS7.7 treated as a separate platform, complete build on it is available.
  3.  MCwrapper 2.3.0 (Frost Release)<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252FJeffersonLab-252Fgluex-5FMCwrapper-252Freleases-252Ftag-252Fv2.3.0-26data-3D02-257C01-257Crichard.t.jones-2540uconn.edu-257C0c13209e2aa840b8cdc908d77ddd5075-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637116261811416751-26sdata-3DrXaGWwH2CF6Ndd9d4-252B3HEfRcRWPbhD63SypBWcY5NsQ-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=Te_hCR4EUlJ6iCDYLJ8Viv2aDOR7D9ZZMoBAvf2H0M4&m=mbUhcYzw7SPqFzGhQh7Vj7JGcNl51y97tZRPeyvMxEA&s=UDKt8vZtZ-f-qFPzkqpPvPmbIW84FLiEbwhgYUn79eU&e=> Thomas released this today. It contains many, accumulated improvement, most of them under the hood, include multi-process monitoring of jobs. See the release notes for details.

Conversion from Python 2 to Python 3

Beni raised the issue. He is concerned that future distributions of Linux will not support Python 2. We may have to react to this as early as January 2020, when support of Python 2 will be withdrawn. Mark thought that the problem may not be all that pressing. He advocates conversion as we identify problems maintaining critical portions of our Python 2 code base.

Review of Minutes from the November 26 Meeting

We went over the minutes<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fhalldweb.jlab.org-252Fwiki-252Findex.php-252FGlueX-5FSoftware-5FMeeting-252C-5FNovember-5F26-252C-5F2019-2523Minutes-26data-3D02-257C01-257Crichard.t.jones-2540uconn.edu-257C0c13209e2aa840b8cdc908d77ddd5075-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637116261811426744-26sdata-3D-252FAdpiOUMTccmmHFsJImYOaxCco3uTvoTjWazRxODekA-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=Te_hCR4EUlJ6iCDYLJ8Viv2aDOR7D9ZZMoBAvf2H0M4&m=mbUhcYzw7SPqFzGhQh7Vj7JGcNl51y97tZRPeyvMxEA&s=PFum1QWDLYBwgYJiYzgnwU-AVFWi801bzZ--HcRjqWo&e=> without significant comment.

Review of Minutes from the December 3 Meeting

We went over the minutes<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fhalldweb.jlab.org-252Fwiki-252Findex.php-252FHDGeant4-5FMeeting-252C-5FDecember-5F3-252C-5F2019-2523Minutes-26data-3D02-257C01-257Crichard.t.jones-2540uconn.edu-257C0c13209e2aa840b8cdc908d77ddd5075-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637116261811426744-26sdata-3DlhFSzNwsXkJHHpxedYJDNa5p4ITAPiXQJGMf-252BMc-252Fs2U-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=Te_hCR4EUlJ6iCDYLJ8Viv2aDOR7D9ZZMoBAvf2H0M4&m=mbUhcYzw7SPqFzGhQh7Vj7JGcNl51y97tZRPeyvMxEA&s=BGT6cutIWLlZlLXwryQ97pZ8xe5BgDP0DYIriaimSxI&e=> without significant comment.

New Version Set and Build

Beni requested a new version set. The current default will not support analysis of the data currently being obtained. Mark I. put it on his list.

CCDB 2.0 On the Way

Mark reported that Dmitry is nearly ready to release CCDB 2.0. It will have improvements including the ability to freeze variation ancestors with letting the variation of interest move forward in time. This can be done without in a way that is fully backward compatible: old code and new code can use the same updated schema. The greatly simplifies implementation in comparison with what one might have expected for a schema change.

RCDB Errors in the Counting Room

Naomi and Justin reported problems with RCDB information<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Flogbooks.jlab.org-252Fentry-252F3748503-26data-3D02-257C01-257Crichard.t.jones-2540uconn.edu-257C0c13209e2aa840b8cdc908d77ddd5075-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637116261811436736-26sdata-3D3FolQmdsVzkCixJI0bBFARr28-252Bo8aF40Z8GKZrtmt2E-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=Te_hCR4EUlJ6iCDYLJ8Viv2aDOR7D9ZZMoBAvf2H0M4&m=mbUhcYzw7SPqFzGhQh7Vj7JGcNl51y97tZRPeyvMxEA&s=5JNLGIL_ZUoqBBV336PCwWFJKkuU92yzBaGI9kDFYQg&e=> being recorded as we take data. Naomi will contact Sergey Furletov or Dmitry Romanov or both in an as-yet-to-be-specified order about the problem.

MySQL Server Problems: hallddb-farm.jlab.org<http://hallddb-farm.jlab.org/>

hallddb-farm is the recommended server to use on the JLab farm for accessing CCDB data. Kevin Luckas and Justin have reported jobs hanging forever<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgroups.google.com-252Fforum-252F-2523-21topic-252Fgluex-2Dsoftware-252FeG6cmxZxyTM-26data-3D02-257C01-257Crichard.t.jones-2540uconn.edu-257C0c13209e2aa840b8cdc908d77ddd5075-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637116261811436736-26sdata-3DOwZkmrSOG9Ek1fLmY6vSwo-252BHq0eYFKFOtGdBGsIRJc8-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=Te_hCR4EUlJ6iCDYLJ8Viv2aDOR7D9ZZMoBAvf2H0M4&m=mbUhcYzw7SPqFzGhQh7Vj7JGcNl51y97tZRPeyvMxEA&s=ikPD2dUmSN0VQftdJpS57MjPNQzIvvLNlzSffjzRwIk&e=> when using this server, both from within batch jobs and interactively. Mark I. started looking into it but ran into other, unrelated problems. This needs to be addressed soon!

genBH and Non-Standard HDDM Output Data

Mark D. reported problems with genBH, an optionally built event generator from the HDGeant4 repository. It produces output in the hddm_mc_s schema of HDDM and not in the usual hddm_s schema. Programs downstream of event generation cannot grok these events. He has modified a private version to use hddm_s. The package requires Richard's Dirac++ package, which we do not build as part of the standard software stack. There was discussion, not conclusive, about whether the modified version should be put into some other repository, presumably halld_sim.

Action Item Review

  1.  Create and build a new version set. (Mark)
  2.  Test and debug hallddb-farm.jlab.org<http://hallddb-farm.jlab.org/>.
  3.  Figure out what to do with genBH.

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