[Halld-offline] HDGeant4 Meeting Minutes, March 12, 2019

[Mark Ito]

Folks,

Please find the minutes here 
<https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/HDGeant4_Meeting,_March_12,_2019#Minutes> 
and below.

   -- Mark

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    Minutes, HDGeant4 Meeting, March 12, 2019

Present:

  * *Glasgow: * Peter Pauli
  * *JLab: * Shankar Adhikari, Alex Austregesilo, Thomas Britton, Stuart
    Fegan, Mark Ito (chair), Simon Taylor, Beni Zihlmann
  * *UConn: * Richard Jones

There is a recording of the meeting on the BlueJeans site 
<https://bluejeans.com/s/1aas1/>. Use your JLab credentials to access it.


      Review of minutes from the last HDGeant4

We reviewed the minutes from February 26 
<https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/HDGeant4_Meeting,_February_26,_2019#Minutes>. 
Simon continues to work on single-particle gun comparisons of HDG3 vs. 
HDG4.


      Discussion/proposal_for_making_transition_to_G4

Mark led us through the discussion from the last Software Meeting 
<https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/GlueX_Software_Meeting,_March_5,_2019#Discussion.2Fproposal_for_making_transition_to_G4> 
on a policy for making the transition to HDG4. He concludes that there 
was no consensus on what the policy should be. Since studies and 
comparisons are going forward in any case, he proposed, and the group 
agreed, that we drop the idea of a formal policy. As a corollary, we are 
dropping the idea of a document to support collaboration-wide adoption 
of HDG4; the recommendation that we do so has essentially been rejected, 
at least for now.


      G3/G4 comparison for ρ(770) cross section: after ST fix, without
      trigger emulation

Alex repeated his study from two weeks ago with a fix to the start 
counter geometry and with no trigger emulation as suggested last time. 
His presentation starts at 12:50 in the recording.

He first showed the overall acceptance as a function of energy 
<https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/images/9/9d/Accpentance_g3_g4_notrigger.pdf>. 
Removing the trigger emulation had almost no effect. The disagreement at 
low energy remains.

Next he showed a selection from the large number of comparison plots he 
produced 
<https://halldweb.jlab.org/talks/2019/Independent_rho_G3_G4_noTrigger.pdf>. 
He highlighted the following areas (with page numbers):

 1. FDC Cathode (32.54)
 2. B/FCal Shower Energy (76/77, 308/311)
 3. Timing of charged tracks in FCal/BCal (866/873)
 4. Tracking below 12 degrees (1041)

In general things look more similar than they did in the previous 
version of the the study.

  * The number of FDC hits on tracks shows a significant difference,
    10-20% more hits in the HDG4 simulation. Richard thought this might
    be due to difference in energy deposition physics in G3 vs. G4.
  * The time of charged particles measured in the BCAL vs the real time
    has a high-side tail much larger for HDG3 than for HDG4. Since these
    may be hadronic showers, Richard stated that neither is to be trusted.
  * Alex showed a plot showing were events are cut in the analysis chain
    <https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/images/3/35/G3_G4_combocontruction.png>.
    In particular, there is cut that requires all charged particles to
    agree on the RF bunch that caused the event. The plot shows a much
    larger number of events eliminated by the timing agreement cut for
    HDG3 than for HDG4 about a factor of two. This may be related to the
    BCAL timing effecting the proton time.
      o Richard will look at the these BCAL timing distributions in real
        data. Perhaps neither simulation does a good job and we should
        smear this quantity with distributions derived from real data.


      FCAL: comparing G3 and G4

Richard gave an update on the energy response of FCAL 
<https://halldweb.jlab.org/doc-private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=3852>, 
comparing HDG3 and HDG4.

  * The work had benefited from interactions with the Calorimeter Group.
  * He compares shower energy, after full simulation, smearing,
    reconstruction, and non-linearity correction.
  * The comparison is done in slices of polar angle.
  * Agreement between HDG3 and HDG4 is very good.
  * He sees a significant remaining non-linearity, both at low energy
    (below 1 GeV) and at high energy (above 4 GeV). The character of the
    non-linearity for HDG3 is the same as that for HDG4.

He did not show the corresponding BCAL study but told us that the 
agreement is goo there as well. He now plans to start looking at timing 
in the calorimeters.


      Review of Issues and Pull Requests

Jon Zarling reported an issue, Photon Gun Sample Changes Behavior after 
~500,000 events? #94 
<https://github.com/JeffersonLab/HDGeant4/issues/94> where photons from 
the gun do not escape the target deep into the HDGeant4 run. Naomi 
Jarvis was able to reproduce it. The problem was real, Richard got to 
the bottom of it, it has been reported to the Geant4 Collaboration, and 
a fix implemented in HDGeant4. For details of the bug, see Issue #94 on 
GitHub.

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