<div dir="ltr">Yeah, the raw hit time distributions look quite different (see attached, blue=hdgeant, red=hdgeant4). Probably you want to look at the time distribution vs. track DOCA, or something like that.<div><br></div><div>---Sean<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 5:54 PM Thomas Britton <<a href="mailto:tbritton@jlab.org">tbritton@jlab.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Simon and I were looking at these and noticed a dearth of fdc hits and “good track candidates” . The number of hits per track is shockingly different<br><br><div id="m_-7959224267252355580AppleMailSignature">Thomas Britton</div><div><br>On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Justin Stevens <<a href="mailto:jrsteven@jlab.org" target="_blank">jrsteven@jlab.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Hi Thomas,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for putting these together. First a technical point: there seems to be an issue with the p=1 GeV and theta=70 degrees single track samples, since the histograms are almost all empty.</div><div><br></div>Now onto the other single track MC samples: The forward tracking momentum resolution is pretty poor from G4 (see pages 2 and 3 for both WireBased and TimeBased tracks in the single pi- at theta=4 and p=4 GeV <a href="https://halldweb.jlab.org/gluex_sim/G3G4_Comparisons/ver01/pim_4_4_Hist_Reconstruction.pdf" target="_blank">https://halldweb.jlab.org/gluex_sim/G3G4_Comparisons/ver01/pim_4_4_Hist_Reconstruction.pdf</a>). This is likely related to the # of reconstructed hits on tracks (page 17 of the same PDF) where very few of the tracks have the maximum number of hits expected for this region in G4. <div><br></div><div>Interestingly the number of FDC wire and cathode hits, as well as pseudo points, for this sample are basically the same (see below where G3 is left and G4 is right). Meaning the FDC hit-level objects are there, but there’s a problem with tracking through the FDC. Any ideas from the experts on why this might be the case?</div><div><br></div><div>A similar conclusion can be drawn from the single-particle samples at 15 degrees. </div><div><br></div><div>-Justin</div><div><br></div><div>FDCWireHits</div><div><br></div><div><PastedGraphic-4.png><br><div><br></div><div>FDCCathodeHits</div><div><br></div><div><PastedGraphic-5.png></div><div><br></div><div>FDCPseudoHits</div><div><br></div><div><PastedGraphic-6.png></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div dir="auto"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 17, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Thomas Britton <<a href="mailto:tbritton@jlab.org" target="_blank">tbritton@jlab.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-7959224267252355580Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Initial comparisons can be found <a href="https://halldweb.jlab.org/gluex_sim/G3G4_Comparisons/ver01/" target="_blank">https://halldweb.jlab.org/gluex_sim/G3G4_Comparisons/ver01/</a> and also at /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/<br><br>*_Reconstruction are all the graphs from the /Independent/Hist_Reconstruction/ directory in hd_root.root and *_Neutrals come from /Independent/Hist_Neutrals/<br><br>The prefixes should line up with the directories below.<br><br>I haven't looked at all of the plots yet so if something looks wildly off please let me know and I can try to regenerate things by Thursday.<br><br>Thomas<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Thomas Britton" <<a href="mailto:tbritton@jlab.org" target="_blank">tbritton@jlab.org</a>><br>To: "GlueX Offline Software Email List" <<a href="mailto:halld-offline@jlab.org" target="_blank">halld-offline@jlab.org</a>><br>Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 10:02:49 AM<br>Subject: [Halld-offline] Geant3/Geant4 comparison MC<br><br>initial runs of particle gun comparisons can be found:<br>+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+<br>| OutputLocation |<br>+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/prot_g3_4_4_20180712023219pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/prot_g3_4_15_20180712023438pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/prot_g3_1_70_20180712023505pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/pim_g3_4_15_20180712023845pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/pim_g3_1_70_20180712023858pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/gamma_g3_4_4_20180712023935pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/gamma_g3_4_15_20180712024002pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/gamma_g3_1_70_20180712024104pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/gamma_g4_1_70_20180712024133pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/gamma_g4_4_15_20180712024211pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/gamma_g4_4_4_20180712024219pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/pim_g4_1_70_20180712024321pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/pim_g4_4_15_20180712024344pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/pim_g4_4_4_20180712024352pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/prot_g4_4_4_20180712024455pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/prot_g4_4_15_20180712024515pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/prot_g4_1_70_20180712024531pm/ |<br>+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+<br><br>where prot_g3_4_15_20180712023438pm is formed from [particle user]_g[3/4]_[P GeV]_[Theta degrees]_[Time Stamp]<br>thus the example above is for 4 GeV protons shot through geant3 at 15 degrees.<br><br>The signal MC can be found:<br><br>+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+<br>| OutputLocation |<br>+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/RHO_geant3_20180713024643pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/RHO_geant4_20180713024658pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/OMEGA_geant4_20180713024842pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/OMEGA_geant3_20180713024852pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/PHI_geant3_20180713024922pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/PHI_geant4_20180713024930pm/ |<br>| /volatile/halld/home/tbritton/REQUESTED_MC/PI0_geant3_20180713025004pm/ |<br>+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+<br><br>These use the same 4 vectors and are of the form [Channel]_geant[3/4]_[Time Stamp]. <br> RHO->pi+ pi-<br> OMEGA->pi+ pi- pi0<br> PHI->K+ K-<br> PI0->gg<br><br>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+<br>| OutputLocation |<br>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+<br>| 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