<div dir="ltr">We could use more automated testing. It would be nice to have a build+run+compare test instead of just a build test. <div><br></div><div>in my previous job I wrote the back-end software for this <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.phe-2Dprotectionservices.org.uk_imba_&d=DwMFaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=Te_hCR4EUlJ6iCDYLJ8Viv2aDOR7D9ZZMoBAvf2H0M4&m=6VZR-vIePl47fHjWPfbEHD1HtA9LvXNXT8bwIhb3rMI&s=WOY6yKB6qflkluL9BEHMFzRZ48vDQ12gfAFvrLuHLv8&e=">https://www.phe-protectionservices.org.uk/imba/</a> Eventually I wrote an automated test facility for myself to use to compare results between old and new versions using many strategically picked scenarios, to check that the changes did what they were supposed to and nothing else. Writing the test facility was a discouraged diversion initially but well worth it a few years later. </div><div><br></div><div>GlueX could use something like this, at least to compare tagged releases. I am not suggesting checking histograms by eye on a website, I would prefer an automatic numerical comparison which flags differences and % differences, for many plugins, many histograms.</div><div><br></div><div>Naomi. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:56 PM David Lawrence <<a href="mailto:davidl@jlab.org" target="_blank">davidl@jlab.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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I just meant the analogy doesn’t seem complete since lots of people do actually download and build
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The reviewer though will likely never need to download the data and run the analysis whereas someone elese will need to compile and run the code.
<div>Just a thought.<br>
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<div>On Apr 29, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Richard Jones <<a href="mailto:richard.t.jones@uconn.edu" target="_blank">richard.t.jones@uconn.edu</a>> wrote:</div>
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Or how about just emailing the author and asking, have you done this? Or can you do this one more test, and I will approve it. Something like the way peer review of articles works. Usually the reviewer does not download the data and carry out independent checks
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<div dir="ltr">I thought the review process would be something like download the new branch, make sure it compiles, make sure it runs, make sure it does whatever it was supposed to do, then go to the website and click the merge button (and presumably
one more now). That's what I do before approving PRs (& why I don't approve many).
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Mark,<br>
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That is a good point, well taken. Anyone who was at the meeting<span> </span><br>
yesterday care to take this one?<br>
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> It might be useful to spell out more clearly what is expected from a review of a pull request, other than clicking the button.<br>
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> Mark<br>
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>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:06 PM, Mark Ito <<a href="mailto:marki@jlab.org" target="_blank">marki@jlab.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Cool. Good to know.<br>
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>> On 4/28/20 7:59 PM, Justin Stevens wrote:<br>
>>> FYI, just successfully executed the review -> merge PR sequence. There’s basically just one more button to push to “Approve” the review, and then you can merge as usual.<br>
>>> -Justin<br>
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>>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:04 PM, Mark Ito <<a href="mailto:marki@jlab.org" target="_blank">marki@jlab.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>>> Folks,<br>
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>>>> At the software meeting just now, we decided to require "reviews" of pull requests before they can be merged onto the master branch. For now this is only for halld_sim and halld_recon. The webpages for the individual pull requests now reflect this. The
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