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<div class="">OK. I think you answered my question. It sounds like you did not write any code that
<div class="">makes TBB calls directly. Only code that calls ROOT or Geant4 libraries which may</div>
<div class="">use TBB themselves. Which, as you say, means it is not our problem to fix.</div>
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-David<br class="">
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David Lawrence Ph.D.<br class="">
Staff Scientist, Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Facility<br class="">
Newport News, VA<br class="">
<a href="mailto:davidl@jlab.org" class="">davidl@jlab.org</a><br class="">
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<div class="">On May 5, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Richard Jones <<a href="mailto:richard.t.jones@uconn.edu" class="">richard.t.jones@uconn.edu</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Yes. What I thought the discussion was missing is that ROOT is shipping with its own version. So regardless of whether that disappears from the sysOS, it is already a private component of ROOT so it remains in our dependencies, and also
not our problem, since the ROOT team has to deal with its replacement or not.
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:53 AM David Lawrence <<a href="mailto:davidl@jlab.org" class="">davidl@jlab.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div class=""> Sorry for not being clearer. I’m not having trouble with building/running HDGeant4 myself.</div>
<div class="">The comments (both mine and Thomas’) are whether we have a dependency in our code </div>
<div class="">on TBB at all that could bite us later since Intel has announced they are deprecating support</div>
<div class="">for the low level API.</div>
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-David<br class="">
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David Lawrence Ph.D.<br class="">
Staff Scientist, Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Facility<br class="">
Newport News, VA<br class="">
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<div class="">On May 5, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Richard Jones <<a href="mailto:rjones30@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">rjones30@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">I have had to deal with that on my site, and the reason for me has been ROOT. The one that is part of the ROOT build is</div>
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ls -l /usr/local/root/lib/libtbb*<br class="">
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 Jan 21 01:23 /usr/local/root/lib/libtbb.so<br class="">
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2244304 Jan 21 01:23 /usr/local/root/lib/libtbb.so.2<br class="">
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26 Jan 21 01:23 /usr/local/root/lib/libtbbmalloc.so<br class="">
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 759608 Jan 21 01:23 /usr/local/root/lib/libtbbmalloc.so.2<br class="">
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32 Jan 21 01:23 /usr/local/root/lib/libtbbmalloc_proxy.so<br class="">
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 46344 Jan 21 01:23 /usr/local/root/lib/libtbbmalloc_proxy.so.2<br class="">
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<div class="">The one distributed with Centos is:</div>
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locate libtbb<br class="">
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/usr/lib64/libtbbmalloc.so.2<br class="">
/usr/lib64/libtbbmalloc_proxy.so.2<br class="">
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<div class="">They are not interchangeable. Do not replace the one on your system, just fix your LD_LIBRARY_PATH so that the ROOT one is first.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:43 AM David Lawrence <<a href="mailto:davidl@jlab.org" target="_blank" class="">davidl@jlab.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div class=""> Yes, I agree with Thomas that this may be something to be concerned about. LHC experiments</div>
<div class="">using the low level TBB API are scrambling now to address this. Does this dependence come from</div>
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-David<br class="">
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David Lawrence Ph.D.<br class="">
Staff Scientist, Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Facility<br class="">
Newport News, VA<br class="">
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<div class="">I mean there is time but introducing a deprecated (deprecating?) library seems risky....<br class="">
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<p class="">It's been about a month so I tagged new versions of our core packages and put them in a new version set,
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version_4.19.0.xml</a>.</p>
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2.12.0</a></li><li class=""><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252FJeffersonLab-252Fhd-5Futilities-252Freleases-252Ftag-252F1.21-26data-3D02-257C01-257Crichard.t.jones-2540uconn.edu-257Cf31e94fddb7f4b7bc99a08d7f0f1f618-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637242794319248856-26sdata-3DFDnst6c3-252Fv2j-252FS4NLSnJsqWQkKp-252F-252FP0gPRRn7QhbXtE-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=i0p-C_T1RieVsCZl8ZnUyQ&m=rhGiGamFKV4el5CZprDio6rg4xy2YCeWzTaLcvTgcHw&s=aLFysmkFyAbwA88M1qr8tLNUZU9jUC_vOI_17BnYGOQ&e=" target="_blank" class="">hd_utilities
1.21</a></li><li class=""><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252FJeffersonLab-252Fgluex-5Froot-5Fanalysis-252Freleases-252Ftag-252F1.9.0-26data-3D02-257C01-257Crichard.t.jones-2540uconn.edu-257Cf31e94fddb7f4b7bc99a08d7f0f1f618-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637242794319258853-26sdata-3DFBv7tiSM3CPowkr-252BrfSEv2GA4dAltwTdW1sDaRr9M5I-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=i0p-C_T1RieVsCZl8ZnUyQ&m=rhGiGamFKV4el5CZprDio6rg4xy2YCeWzTaLcvTgcHw&s=nqPmpzZWFxafsh6rQI1JTgI6DNoL5fJcdeqW5ZSrNR4&e=" target="_blank" class="">gluex_root_analysis
1.9.0</a></li></ul>
<p class="">This version has been built on CentOS7 and RHEL7 at JLab. It will become the default version set at the Lab at midnight tonight.</p>
<p class="">The build on CentOS7-cntr, for the container, is incomplete. The new version of HDGeant4 requires a new RPM, namely the tbb package:</p>
<p class=""> The Threading Building Blocks library abstracts low-level threading details</p>
<p class="">This package is not in the current container. We will need a new container to build this version of HDGeant4. Not hard to do, but not done in less than 5 minutes. Stay tuned...<br class="">
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