<div dir="ltr">Yes. What I thought the discussion was missing is that ROOT is shipping with its own version. So regardless of whether that disappears from the sysOS, it is already a private component of ROOT so it remains in our dependencies, and also not our problem, since the ROOT team has to deal with its replacement or not.<div>-rtj</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:53 AM David Lawrence <<a href="mailto:davidl@jlab.org">davidl@jlab.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div> Sorry for not being clearer. I’m not having trouble with building/running HDGeant4 myself.</div>
<div>The comments (both mine and Thomas’) are whether we have a dependency in our code </div>
<div>on TBB at all that could bite us later since Intel has announced they are deprecating support</div>
<div>for the low level API.</div>
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-David<br>
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Staff Scientist, Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Facility<br>
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<div>On May 5, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Richard Jones <<a href="mailto:rjones30@gmail.com" target="_blank">rjones30@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>I have had to deal with that on my site, and the reason for me has been ROOT. The one that is part of the ROOT build is</div>
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ls -l /usr/local/root/lib/libtbb*<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 Jan 21 01:23 /usr/local/root/lib/libtbb.so<br>
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2244304 Jan 21 01:23 /usr/local/root/lib/libtbb.so.2<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26 Jan 21 01:23 /usr/local/root/lib/libtbbmalloc.so<br>
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 759608 Jan 21 01:23 /usr/local/root/lib/libtbbmalloc.so.2<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32 Jan 21 01:23 /usr/local/root/lib/libtbbmalloc_proxy.so<br>
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 46344 Jan 21 01:23 /usr/local/root/lib/libtbbmalloc_proxy.so.2<br>
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<div>The one distributed with Centos is:</div>
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locate libtbb<br>
/usr/lib64/libtbb.so.2<br>
/usr/lib64/libtbbmalloc.so.2<br>
/usr/lib64/libtbbmalloc_proxy.so.2<br>
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<div>They are not interchangeable. Do not replace the one on your system, just fix your LD_LIBRARY_PATH so that the ROOT one is first.</div>
<div>-Richard</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:43 AM David Lawrence <<a href="mailto:davidl@jlab.org" target="_blank">davidl@jlab.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi,
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<div> Yes, I agree with Thomas that this may be something to be concerned about. LHC experiments</div>
<div>using the low level TBB API are scrambling now to address this. Does this dependence come from</div>
<div>our code, or is it from Geant4 itself?</div>
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-David<br>
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<div>On May 4, 2020, at 8:16 PM, Thomas Britton <<a href="mailto:tbritton@jlab.org" target="_blank">tbritton@jlab.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="auto">Is this necessary? Tbb is being deprecated.....
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<div>I mean there is time but introducing a deprecated (deprecating?) library seems risky....<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On May 4, 2020, at 8:06 PM, Mark Ito <<a href="mailto:marki@jlab.org" target="_blank">marki@jlab.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>It's been about a month so I tagged new versions of our core packages and put them in a new version set,
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<p>This version has been built on CentOS7 and RHEL7 at JLab. It will become the default version set at the Lab at midnight tonight.</p>
<p>The build on CentOS7-cntr, for the container, is incomplete. The new version of HDGeant4 requires a new RPM, namely the tbb package:</p>
<p> The Threading Building Blocks library abstracts low-level threading details</p>
<p>This package is not in the current container. We will need a new container to build this version of HDGeant4. Not hard to do, but not done in less than 5 minutes. Stay tuned...<br>
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