<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi All,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Minutes of today’s Online meeting have been posted on the wiki and copied below.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/OWG_Meeting_10-Aug-2016" class="">https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/OWG_Meeting_10-Aug-2016</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class="">-David</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><h1 style="font-weight: normal; margin: 0px 0px 0.6em; overflow: hidden; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(170, 170, 170); font-size: 23.876px; font-family: sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: 19.05px; widows: 1; background-image: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span class="mw-headline" id="Minutes">Minutes</span><span class="mw-editsection" style="-webkit-user-select: none; font-size: small; margin-left: 1em; vertical-align: baseline; line-height: 1em; display: inline-block;"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php?title=OWG_Meeting_10-Aug-2016&action=edit§ion=5" title="Edit section: Minutes" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background: none;" class="">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h1><div style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 19.05px; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.7px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; widows: 1; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Attendees: David L. (chair), Simon T., Naomi, J., Eugene C., Sandy P., Chip W., Beni Z., Bryan M., Dave A., Vardan G., Mark I., Curtis M., Cody D.</div><h2 style="font-weight: normal; margin: 0px 0px 0.6em; overflow: hidden; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(170, 170, 170); font-size: 19.05px; font-family: sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: 19.05px; widows: 1; background-image: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span class="mw-headline" id="Announcements">Announcements</span><span class="mw-editsection" style="-webkit-user-select: none; font-size: small; margin-left: 1em; vertical-align: baseline; line-height: 1em; display: inline-block;"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php?title=OWG_Meeting_10-Aug-2016&action=edit§ion=6" title="Edit section: Announcements" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background: none;" class="">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2><ul style="line-height: 19.05px; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url(data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.7px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; widows: 1; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">New RAID Storage node is also delivered and is in Dat Center<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url("data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=");" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">David will be meeting with Paul L. next week to discuss where the nodes will be installed in rack room relative to switch and allowing for future farm expansion</li></ul></li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">High Intensity Running<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url("data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=");" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Wiki page is up and gathering information</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Need a dedicated meeting to help generate answers to questions (or form plan to generate answers)</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Need new numbers by end of month to share with management and help with our own planning</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Main issues:<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url(data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=);" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Reduce L1 trigger rate</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Bandwidth limitation in VME</li></ul></li></ul></li></ul><h2 style="font-weight: normal; margin: 0px 0px 0.6em; overflow: hidden; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(170, 170, 170); font-size: 19.05px; font-family: sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: 19.05px; widows: 1; background-image: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span class="mw-headline" id="Network_Bandwidth_to_CC">Network Bandwidth to CC</span><span class="mw-editsection" style="-webkit-user-select: none; font-size: small; margin-left: 1em; vertical-align: baseline; line-height: 1em; display: inline-block;"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php?title=OWG_Meeting_10-Aug-2016&action=edit§ion=7" title="Edit section: Network Bandwidth to CC" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background: none;" class="">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2><ul style="line-height: 19.05px; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url(data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.7px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; widows: 1; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Chip sent out an e-mail with some details on how we could go about maximizing are bandwidth to permanent tape storage. He went over some highlights and gave a few other ideas.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">We currently have two 10Gbit fiber links from Hall-D to CEBAF center that have been tested to give an aggregate of ~1.8GB/sec sustained rate<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url("data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=");" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Other fibers were strung and are available, but would need to be outfitted on both ends</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Hall-B has a 40GBit link. Our fibers could be used for this, but there is significant cost involved for the hardware needed on both ends.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">May be cheaper to implement 4x10Gbit links with clever scripting to ensure all links are being utilized</li></ul></li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Lustre file system is capable of consuming a couple of Gbyte/sec<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url("data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=");" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">To maximize data rate, need to setup 2 file transfers per link for a total of 4 simultaneous file transfers</li></ul></li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">New RAID disk should be capable of supplying 1.6Gbyte/sec. (Old ones probably not, though we may improve their capability if we reconfigured them with the right stripes)<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url("data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=");" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">May need to configure new RAID to have 4 stripes to make it easy for DAQ to efficiently write to disks at maximum rate. (Mount these as 4 separate file systems?)</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Will need to limit how much is written to each disk so that only outer cylinders of disk are used which have higher bandwidth</li></ul></li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Slightly less than 2GB/sec currently available into tape library<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url("data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=");" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">If we intend to write 1.6GByte/sec sustained, Chip would need 1 month lead time to procure additional tape drives</li></ul></li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Chip suggested option: Record 1.6GByte/sec to Data Center of "pre-raw" data. After run, submit farm jobs to apply L3 filtering/reformatting and generate "raw" data which will then have 2 copies made for permanent storage<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url("data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=");" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">The "pre-raw" data will then be discarded and the tapes reused for the "raw" data.</li></ul></li></ul><h2 style="font-weight: normal; margin: 0px 0px 0.6em; overflow: hidden; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(170, 170, 170); font-size: 19.05px; font-family: sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: 19.05px; widows: 1; background-image: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span class="mw-headline" id="DAQ">DAQ</span><span class="mw-editsection" style="-webkit-user-select: none; font-size: small; margin-left: 1em; vertical-align: baseline; line-height: 1em; display: inline-block;"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php?title=OWG_Meeting_10-Aug-2016&action=edit§ion=8" title="Edit section: DAQ" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background: none;" class="">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2><ul style="line-height: 19.05px; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url(data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.7px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; widows: 1; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Sergey has been testing single crate data rates<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url("data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=");" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Modified trigger rate, holdoff time, and occupancy (via threshold and noise)</li></ul></li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Used 3 CDC crates with fADC125 modules<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url("data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=");" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">256kHz period trigger<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url(data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=);" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">200kHz, 80% livetime, 35MB/sec/crate (no hit occupancy, headers only)</li></ul></li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">110kHz random trigger<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url(data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=);" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Required ~2.5μs holdoff time (suspect this is due to minimum holdoff needed for system)</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Lowered thresholds to implement non-zero hit occupancy</li></ul></li></ul></li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Realistic readout limit is 50-60MB/s per fADC125 crate (theoretical with current firmware is 66MB/s)</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Realistic readout limit is ~120MB/s per fADC250 crate (theoretical with current firmware is200MB/s)<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url("data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=");" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Cody thinks he knows why and can squeeze close to a factor of 2 out of it</li></ul></li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">fADC250 readout limited to 200MB/s<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url("data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=");" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Also requires 2.5μs holdoff</li></ul></li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Asked Cody if it would be possible to drop Trigger Time words from all but 1st and last events in block. He thought is was possible but will need to look at it.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Dave A. has been testing 10Gbit ethernet boards for ROCs.<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url("data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=");" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Able to achieve ~630MB/s</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Does not know current cost of cards, but likely around $500 each (we would probably need 14)</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Switches in hall have 1Gbit links with a 10Gbit uplink.<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url(data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=);" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">May have second 10Gbit uplink that is currently unused</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Options: Replace switches with one(s) containing multiple 10Gbit ports or run fibers directly from ROCs upstairs to switch in Counting House</li></ul></li></ul></li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Naomi showed some results of a brief study of the single chip occupancy in the fADC125<ul style="line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url("data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=");" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Chip occupancy seems to be around 5% for 80nA PARA run with 50μm diamond (210nA run needs to be looked at again)</li></ul></li></ul><h2 style="font-weight: normal; margin: 0px 0px 0.6em; overflow: hidden; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(170, 170, 170); font-size: 19.05px; font-family: sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: 19.05px; widows: 1; background-image: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span class="mw-headline" id="AOT">AOT</span><span class="mw-editsection" style="-webkit-user-select: none; font-size: small; margin-left: 1em; vertical-align: baseline; line-height: 1em; display: inline-block;"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php?title=OWG_Meeting_10-Aug-2016&action=edit§ion=9" title="Edit section: AOT" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background: none;" class="">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2><ul style="line-height: 19.05px; list-style-type: square; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url(data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhBQANAIAAAGOMnP///yH5BAEAAAEALAAAAAAFAA0AAAIJjI+pu+APo4SpADs=); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12.7px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; widows: 1; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">Beni noted that we need to ask all subsystem groups to minimize their readout windows so as to minimize data footprint and therefore, bandwidth requirement</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;" class="">CDC and FDC have been looked at and are already at minimum</li></ul><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></body></html>