[Halld-pid] Minutes of the GlueX PID meeting, May 28, '10
Mark M. Ito
marki at jlab.org
Tue Jun 1 10:02:14 EDT 2010
Find the minutes posted at
http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/software/wiki/index.php/GlueX_PID_Meeting%2C_May_28%2C_2010#Minutes
and as text below.
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GlueX PID Meeting, May 28, 2010
Minutes
* FSU: Paul Eugenio, Sasha Ostrovidov
* JLab: Eugene Chudakov, Mark Ito (chair), Sascha Somov, Tim
Whitlatch, Elliott Wolin, Beni Zihlmann
* UMass: Rory Miskimen
Announcements
* Eugene announced that the recent change request approved has been
approved and we can go ahead and buy some PMT's for the TOF
prototype.
* This generated some discussion:
+ Paul reported that Hamamatsu has offered to put a dynode
output on the base for same price as for the standard
configuration. He reminded us that the original plan was to
use an XP2020 with both anode and dynode outputs.
+ Paul discussed using a passive splitter with Fernando Barbosa
at the last collaboration meeting. We should discuss all
options further.
+ Paul will send Mark a new quote for use in writing up the PR.
Reviewing minutes from the last meeting
We went over them.
Tim mentioned a recent meeting where there was a lab-wide review of
helium demand in the future. At the meeting he mentioned the idea of
getting a pulse tube refrigerator for target and our needs for the
solenoid. Others at the meeting raised the possibility of supporting
various other types of targets, include a FROST target. We agreed that
for now our planning should only include hydrogen, deuterium and helium
4; other possibilities would have to be raised and developed before
impacting current plans. The change request to support a purchase has
been approved.
Time-of-Flight
We went over several items.
calibration
Paul reminded us that in Hall B, time-walk studies are done with a
laser pulsing system. To explore doing similar studies ourselves, he
has received LED's from [27]Nichia, both UV and blue. A circuit has
been constructed to drive the LED's. The UV LED will be used to excite
the scintillator. He is working with a scope right now. He can get down
to 8 ns width and 5 V pulse height with the pulser he has.
We had originally discussed using the system being developed for the
calorimeter to pulse the TOF. There was some concern about whether that
system could vary output amplitude precisely enough to calibrate the
time-walk.
change of thickness of counters
Paul proposed that we increase the thickness of the TOF counters to
better match the size of the photocathode of the PMT, from 1 in. to
1-1/3 in. He has talked to Matt, who thought that there would be little
effect on calorimeter. The width would remain the same at 6 cm.
There was some discussion about how much might really be gained. We
probably should try to understand the limits to light collection in
either plan.
wrapping material
Paul discussed choices of wrapping material:
* He is now using Tyvek, some aluminized mylar, and aluminum foil
* The material formerly known as VM2000 is now called ESR DF2000MA.
It was originally sold as roll. Yuri Sharabian got some, PrimEx
used it, the new start counter for CLAS used it, and they are
planning on using it for the CLAS12 TOF.
* It is not sold in rolls anymore; LCD screens is the current big
market.
* Paul has obtained a sample, 20 ft. long, 1.5 ft wide; he will fool
around with it. He will also test other materials.
* Cost: $1000 for a 150 ft. roll. The thickness is 2.6 mils.
* It is non-conductive, non-magnetic, reflectivity north of 99%.
* The current plan is to use black Tedlar for wrapping. Although
DuPont says there is a shortage, they will send Paul a sample, 6
ft. by 150 ft., which ought to hold him for a while.
other items
* prototype work: The scintillator has been machined down to the
nominal 6 cm wide.
* MOU: Paul has recent put effort on the MOU on hold pending
completing of his DOE proposal. He will send Mark a final draft
next week.
Target
Rory has sent a recently revised version of the UMass MOU to JLab.
New Action Items
1. Arrange a meeting to discuss signal splitting schemes for the TOF
PMT signals.
2. Think about light collection studies for the TOF.
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References
27. http://www.nichia.co.jp/en/about_nichia/index.html
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