Propose: Decision on what PMT type to chose for the TOF detector and what strategy to follow. Facts: 1) We expect about 550 photo electrons from a MIP hitting the center of a 252 cm long paddle. 2) We expect large rates from electromagnetic background for paddles close to the beam line. 3) At 10^8 photons high luminosity running the highest rate for the half width paddle closest to the beam line is 10 MHz. 4) The PMTs under consideration are R9779 Hamamatsu 8-stage and 10-stage tubes. The gain of the 8-stage tube is 5*10^5 at an operating voltage of 1500V. The maximum Voltage is 1750V where a gain of about 1*10^6 is expected. For the 10-stage tube the gain is about 2.5*10^6 at 1750V with maximum Voltage at 2000V where a gain of about 6*10^6 is expected. 5) For both PMTs a maximum operating current of 0.1mA is given which results in a drop in gain of 50% after 1000 hours of operation. (That is 42 days.) There are no long term operation studies and measurements available from Hamamatsu at this time. Calculations: 1) For the highest rate paddle at the center the electromagnetic background will cause signals with a mean of about 70% of a MIP so about 0.7*550 photo electrons. With a gain for 10^6 and a rate of 1MHz (10^7 photons low intensity running) the PMT current is expected to be about 0.062mA. This is lower than the maximum recommended operating current and running a 10-stage tube at this gain has reasonable headroom to compensate a loss in gain with increased high voltage. At such a gain the mean signal amplitude for MIPs a the center of a TOF paddle is about 350mV to 400mV. With an expected attenuation of about 2.3 for hits at the far end of the paddle the smallest mean MIP signals are expected to be 152mV (mean) and about 120mV for the smallest signals in such a landau distribution. This is still reasonable high compared to an assumed discriminator threshold of 30mV. This approach will not work at high luminosity with 10^8 photons/s in the coherent peak and these high rate PMTs need to be replaced by 8-stage tubes described below. Comment: The 100 microA limit corresponds to 50% degradation in signal in 1000 hours of continuous operation (Do I remember this right?). For practical running, assume 17 weeks per year continuous operation (35 weeks on the floor at 50% efficiency). This is about 2800 hours. Assuming we are willing to run for 1600=1000/0.62 hours, the effective lifetime is only 0.6=1600/2800 of a year on the floor. 2) Using an 8-stage tube with a gain at 10^5 would require an additional on-board amplifier of 10 to get the signal amplitude to a reasonable hight to have 10^6 total amplification. But the PMT current will be a factor of 10 lower than for the 10-stage tube example above. The amplifier has to be located on the PMT base and has to handle high rates of 10MHz. In fact two amplifiers will be required one for the anode output and one for the dynode output as outlined below. 3) It is planed to use a modified PMT assembly with two outputs, a negative signal output from the anode and a positive signal from the last dynode capacitively coupled and high impedance terminated. This way we do not need any splitter to multiplex the signal for ADC and TDC. However this means in the case of the 8-stage tube two amplifiers are required one for the anode signal and one for the dynode signal and both have to be on the board of the voltage divider. Comment: Note that the dynode signal is about 1/3 the size of the anode and this should be taken into account. Also, if an amplifier is used, one can easily add two outputs that are relatively isolated from each other and save the expense/complexity of two amplifiers. Strategies: There are basically two strategies one can follow a) start out with 10-stage PMTs everywhere and run the low luminosity period with these tubes and gain experience with this detector. Comment: I would suggest that a solution directed specifically to the 10^7 rate work for at least 2 years (maybe more). >From the numbers you gave above, I am not sure that this is the case. It appears the lifetime is less than one year, unless I missed something. when moving to high luminosity running replace the 10-stage tubes with 8-stage tubes for all the paddles that will have rate larger than 1MHz. These 8-stage tubes will have special bases that incorporate 10-fold amplifiers for the anode and dynode signals. Comment: If the 10-stage option allows for several years of running, this is an attractive option, because we can proceed with it immediately. b) equip the expected high rate paddles with 8-stage tubes right from the start where these tubes have special 10-fold fast amplifiers for both the dynode and anode signals.