[Halld-tagger] Info for the IPR 2009 review
Hrachya.Hakobyan
hakopian at mail.yerphi.am
Fri Sep 18 05:17:41 EDT 2009
Richard,
Nice to hear you too and thanks for comments. As I understand you
have already investigated this subject quantitatively. I believe the
case of 50micron is preferable also in the sense of better and more
reproducible quality of crystal production,with longer life time due to a
consequences of higher rigidity of the thicker radiator.
Hrachya
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Richard Jones wrote:
> Hrachya, it is good to hear from you again. Find my responses below.
> -Richard J.
>
> Hrachya.Hakobyan wrote:
>
> Hello Richard,
>
> In the presence of the beam divergence and multiple coulomb scattering
> the collimation dependence of polarisation seems has a saturation
> toward the collimation decrease.
>
> Eventually it does saturate. The particular choice we have made for Hall
> D is not in the saturated region because we want to maintain a high
> tagging efficiency. But if we were willing to go to low tagging
> efficiency (level of 10%) then the polarization would saturate at the
> value given by the pure coherent component.
>
> If so the 50 micron case probably may be
> used with a wider collimation so with gain in FOM, For the precise study the
> Coulomb scattering probably has to be simulated by decomposing the crystal
> into thin layers(5x10micron f.e.). What do you think about?
>
>
> More multiple scattering does mean we must open up the collimator for the
> sake of tagging efficiency, yes, but that does not increase the figure of
> merit. More multiple scattering decreases the figure of merit. In the
> analytical calculation, the multiple scattering in the target is treated
> continuously (i.e. with N layers of 20/N microns thickness, where
> N->infinity). This analytical model is what we are using to compute the
> performance parameters of the source (e.g. polarization, beam rates, beam
> profile, tagging efficiency, etc.) The simulation uses the analytical
> model to generate the bremsstrahlung events inside the target. All of
> this is to say that the many-thin-layer approach to simulating coherent
> bremsstrahlung is what we are already doing.
>
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>
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Richard Jones wrote:
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>
> Eugene,
>
> Several things change at the same time, so it takes some thought to make
> a true comparison. Under fixed collimation conditions, the polarization
> is not very sensitive to the crystal thickness. However, it is really
> the tagging efficiency that determines what polarization we run at, and
> the tagging efficiency is somewhat more sensitive. If we were not
> concerned with tagging efficiency then we could narrow the collimator
> arbitrarily small and compensate with higher e-beam current, such that
> the polarization attains that of the pure coherent component. So to make
> a fair comparison, I fix the tagging efficiency at its nominal value for
> the standard configuraration (3.4mm collimator, 20 micron diamond) and
> when I change the diamond thickness I vary the collimator diameter to
> keep the tagging efficiency the same at the coherent peak. When I do
> that, I get the following results:
>
> 1. 20 micron diamond:
> o peak polarization = 41.4 %
> o hadronic bg rate (low-energy beam flux, arb. units) = 1.9
>
> 2. 50 micron diamond:
> o peak polarization = 39.4 %
> o hadronic bg rate (low-energy beam flux, arb. units) = 2.1
>
> The figure-of-merit for a polarization observable is rate *
> polarization^2. Here I am going to assume that we are bg limited (at the
> trigger level) so the hadronic bg sets the running rate. Under these
> conditions, going from a 20 micron to 50 micron diamond costs a FOM
> factor of 20%. If errors are purely statistical then this means 20%
> longer run time to achieve the same level of precision. In our case,
> errors are more likely to be systematics dominated, in which case the
> higher polarization and lower bg with a 20 micron diamond will result in
> increased sensitivity to small signals.
>
> -Richard Jones
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