[Halld-tagger] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: GlueX NIM paper: W foil
Elton Smith
elton at jlab.org
Wed Apr 29 17:24:23 EDT 2020
Thanks! Elton
Elton Smith
Jefferson Lab MS 12H3
12000 Jefferson Ave STE 4
Newport News, VA 23606
(757)269-7625
(757)269-6331 fax
On 4/29/20 2:49 PM, Richard Jones wrote:
> Hello Elton,
>
> Please find attached a new macro for generating the harp profile fits
> according to the revised measurement errors that we agreed on at
> yesterday's beamline meeting. Example plots from this macro are
> attached below.
>
> -Richard Jones
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:42 AM Elton Smith <elton at jlab.org
> <mailto:elton at jlab.org>> wrote:
>
> *Message sent from a system outside of UConn.*
>
>
> Hi Hovanes and Richard,
>
> Attached is a new section of the GlueX NIM paper describing the W
> foil.
> Lubomir suggested either of you might want to comment regarding
> improved
> performance of the active collimator or profiler. Take a look at the
> draft section and let me know if you have any suggestions or
> additions.
>
> Thanks, Elton
>
> Elton Smith
> Jefferson Lab MS 12H3
> 12000 Jefferson Ave STE 4
> Newport News, VA 23606
> (757)269-7625
> (757)269-6331 fax
>
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: GlueX NIM paper: W foil
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:36:07 -0400
> From: Lubomir Pentchev <pentchev at jlab.org
> <mailto:pentchev at jlab.org>>
> To: Elton Smith <elton at jlab.org <mailto:elton at jlab.org>>,
> Sergey Furletov <furletov at jlab.org <mailto:furletov at jlab.org>>
> CC: Eugene Chudakov <gen at jlab.org <mailto:gen at jlab.org>>
>
>
>
> Elton,
>
> In the last sentence "Note that in the FDC the wires ..." add a word:
> "Note that in the FDC the sense wires ..".
>
> Also, I recall now at that time there were discussions that the W foil
> improved the operation of the active collimator and the profiler, but
> I'm not sure about that. Maybe Hovanes or Richard can comment on that
> and add a sentence if that is the case.
>
> Lubomir
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Elton Smith <elton at jlab.org <mailto:elton at jlab.org>>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2020 7:58 AM
> *To:* Lubomir Pentchev <pentchev at jlab.org
> <mailto:pentchev at jlab.org>>; Sergey Furletov
> <furletov at jlab.org <mailto:furletov at jlab.org>>
> *Cc:* Elton Smith <elton at jlab.org <mailto:elton at jlab.org>>; Eugene
> Chudakov <gen at jlab.org <mailto:gen at jlab.org>>
> *Subject:* Re: GlueX NIM paper: W foil
> Hi Lubomir,
>
> Find attached a screen shot of the updated section with your figure.
> Take a look at it and let me know if you have any comments. The new
> addition is available on Overleaf.
>
> Also, please send me the source file (.C) for your figure. I will
> likely
> need to make (small) changes to the font size and titles.
>
> Thanks, Elton.
>
> Elton Smith
> Jefferson Lab MS 12H3
> 12000 Jefferson Ave STE 4
> Newport News, VA 23606
> (757)269-7625
> (757)269-6331 fax
>
> On 4/29/20 7:33 AM, Elton Smith wrote:
> > HI Lubomir,
> >
> > Thanks for the quick turn around. I will update the document
> and let
> > you take a look at it. We should add that the foil was inserted
> just
> > upstream of the active collimator.
> >
> > Thanks, Elton.
> >
> > Elton Smith
> > Jefferson Lab MS 12H3
> > 12000 Jefferson Ave STE 4
> > Newport News, VA 23606
> > (757)269-7625
> > (757)269-6331 fax
> >
> > On 4/28/20 11:25 PM, Lubomir Pentchev wrote:
> >> ... and here's the plot.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Lubomir
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> *From:* Elton Smith <elton at jlab.org <mailto:elton at jlab.org>>
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:56 PM
> >> *To:* Lubomir Pentchev <pentchev at jlab.org
> <mailto:pentchev at jlab.org>>; Sergey Furletov
> >> <furletov at jlab.org <mailto:furletov at jlab.org>>
> >> *Cc:* Elton Smith <elton at jlab.org <mailto:elton at jlab.org>>;
> Eugene Chudakov <gen at jlab.org <mailto:gen at jlab.org>>
> >> *Subject:* Re: GlueX NIM paper: W foil
> >> Hi Lubomir,
> >>
> >> I should have added in my previous mail that adding a figure
> (or table)
> >> is very reasonable as it is something fairly unique. A
> modified version
> >> of the plot in your log entry might be very interesting.
> >>
> >> Thanks again, Elton.
> >>
> >> On 4/28/20 4:51 PM, Elton Smith wrote:
> >> > Hi Lubomir,
> >> >
> >> > I will wait to see your suggested contribution.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks, Elton
> >> >
> >> > Elton Smith
> >> > Jefferson Lab MS 12H3
> >> > 12000 Jefferson Ave STE 4
> >> > Newport News, VA 23606
> >> > (757)269-7625
> >> > (757)269-6331 fax
> >> >
> >> > On 4/28/20 4:43 PM, Lubomir Pentchev wrote:
> >> >> Hi Elton,
> >> >>
> >> >> You are right that this is important as the current in the
> DCs is one
> >> >> of the limiting factors for high intensity running and a
> reduction by
> >> >> a factor of 2 in the CDC was achieved in such a simple way,
> just
> >> >> inserting 3%W. For the FDC the optimal was 1.5%W but still
> we got 25%
> >> >> current reduction there. This is summarized in this log:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flogbooks.jlab.org%2Fentry%2F3562987&data=02%7C01%7Crichard.t.jones%40uconn.edu%7C828d5659062f43e80a2108d7ec3ac13a%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637237609412548708&sdata=l8Vr9MaMP0h0X4YWE596nrC5u%2F%2BxC0wHHcdrlY%2Bl1qg%3D&reserved=0
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> >> >>
> >> >> I don't know what details need to be included. Sergey did a
> very
> >> >> interesting characterization of the hits in the CDC based
> on the
> >> >> pulse shape. Is it worth including some of the plots in the
> above
> >> >> log, or we should keep it short?
> >> >>
> >> >> In any case I'll write paragraph and will circulated it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Lubomir
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> *From:* Elton Smith <elton at jlab.org <mailto:elton at jlab.org>>
> >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 3:22 PM
> >> >> *To:* Lubomir Pentchev <pentchev at jlab.org
> <mailto:pentchev at jlab.org>>; Sergey Furletov
> >> >> <furletov at jlab.org <mailto:furletov at jlab.org>>
> >> >> *Cc:* Elton Smith <elton at jlab.org <mailto:elton at jlab.org>>;
> Eugene Chudakov <gen at jlab.org <mailto:gen at jlab.org>>
> >> >> *Subject:* GlueX NIM paper: W foil
> >> >> Hi Lubomir and Serguei,
> >> >>
> >> >> One of the comments to the GlueX NIM paper concerned the W foil
> >> that was
> >> >> inserted into the beamline in 2018. At the moment it is not
> >> mentioned in
> >> >> the paper at all. However, it was important in reducing our
> >> backgrounds,
> >> >> especially in the drift chambers. In addition, this is an
> instance
> >> where
> >> >> somebody building a similar beamline could learn from our
> >> experience. I
> >> >> brought this up at the Beamline meeting this afternoon and
> everyone
> >> >> agreed that it would be useful to include some information
> about
> >> it. I
> >> >> believe you two are the most knowledgeable about this. Let
> me ask
> >> you to
> >> >> write a small subsection (new Subsection 2.5) that could be
> added
> >> to the
> >> >> beamline section immediately before Subsection 2.5 'Active
> >> Collimator,'
> >> >> as the sections follow the physical layout of the
> experiment. How
> >> much
> >> >> detail should be included is partially up to you. I suppose
> that the
> >> >> information could be summarized in a paragraph or two, and
> possibly a
> >> >> table showing the effect of different conditions. Naomi kindly
> >> provided
> >> >> a link to an important log entry at the time at
> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >> I assume this would not be a large effort, mostly collecting
> >> information
> >> >> that is already available. Let me know if you are willing to do
> >> this and
> >> >> what time scale would be needed. I would be happy to help
> out with
> >> >> editing any text that you provide.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks, Elton.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Elton Smith
> >> >> Jefferson Lab MS 12H3
> >> >> 12000 Jefferson Ave STE 4
> >> >> Newport News, VA 23606
> >> >> (757)269-7625
> >> >> (757)269-6331 fax
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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