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Hello all,</div>
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No, I am not planning to submit any pull requests today.<br>
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Cheers,</div>
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Sasha<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Alexander Austregesilo <aaustreg@jlab.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2020 1:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Richard Jones <richard.t.jones@uconn.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alexander Somov <somov@jlab.org>; Justin Stevens <jrsteven@jlab.org>; Benedikt Zihlmann <zihlmann@jlab.org>; Sean Dobbs <sdobbs@fsu.edu>; Hall D beam working group <halld-tagger@jlab.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: DBeamPhoton tests</font>
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<p>Dear Richard,</p>
<p>My first item, the single bin near 9.1 which loses 15%, is in the *hodoscope* region, that is why it only shows up in Sean's branch (ver10, red). The question was more directed towards Sasha or Sean.</p>
<p>Are you still planning to submit a pull request today? <br>
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<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Alex<br>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 4/24/2020 1:15 PM, Richard Jones wrote:<br>
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Comparing the two versions with and without the requirement of ADC/TDC<br>
matching for the hodoscope, I only see a loss of events below 1% in<br>
almost the full energy range. There is only one 100MeV-wide bin near<br>
9.1GeV, where the loss is about 15%. Could this be a sign of a broken or<br>
miscalibrated TDC?</blockquote>
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<div>No, the DAQ was working ok in that sector. The loss of 15% is pretty much uniform across the entire TAGM. The reason the ratio looks like 1 in the low-energy end is because the missed tags are missing from both the numerator (tdc*adc) and denominator (adc)
in that region, so the ratio looks close to 1. I will present my analysis of these data at the beamline meeting next Tuesday. </div>
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Once the thresholds were fixed in run 71724, the loss goes down to 10%<br>
in the higher-energy part of the microscope, while it completely<br>
recovers for the low-energy part. What is the reason for this<br>
discrepancy? New vs old fibers?</blockquote>
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<div>Basically the ratio is close to 1 in the low-energy end of the TAGM because the low-amplitude pulses are missed by both the adc and tdc. What really surprised me is the additional tags that are recovered at the high-energy end where the new fibers are:
by lowering the adc threshold way down, we are able to see an additional 15% of tags in the adc over what is seen by the tdc which just counts on the primary MIP peak. I believe that this 15% are coming from electrons that passed through the cladding of the
fiber, instead of the core. Originally I assumed that light produced in the cladding would be totally lost because it is outside the total-internal-reflection capture cone of the fiber. Now I see that this assumption was wrong! Nevertheless, there is probably
not enough light from these pulses to make good tags.</div>
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<div>Let's discuss the "15% problem" at the beamline meeting next week.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:46 AM Alexander Austregesilo <<a href="mailto:aaustreg@jlab.org">aaustreg@jlab.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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Hi,<br>
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I looked at the accidental corrected rho yields as a function of energy<br>
for the three test runs. You can see the plots on this wiki page:<br>
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Comparing the two versions with and without the requirement of ADC/TDC<br>
matching for the hodoscope, I only see a loss of events below 1% in<br>
almost the full energy range. There is only one 100MeV-wide bin near<br>
9.1GeV, where the loss is about 15%. Could this be a sign of a broken or<br>
miscalibrated TDC?<br>
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For the 2 runs before the adjustment of the microscope thresholds, the<br>
loss of rho events with tagged beam photons is close to 30% as expected.<br>
Once the thresholds were fixed in run 71724, the loss goes down to 10%<br>
in the higher-energy part of the microscope, while it completely<br>
recovers for the low-energy part. What is the reason for this<br>
discrepancy? New vs old fibers?<br>
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Best regards,<br>
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Alex<br>
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