[Hps-ecal] ecal hv
Gabriel CHARLES
charlesg at ipno.in2p3.fr
Wed Dec 3 08:22:57 EST 2014
Am I allowed to measure high voltage with a standard voltmeter if they
can measure up to 400V?
Le 2014-12-03 06:35, Stepan Stepanyan a écrit :
> OR, we could first measure voltage right at the output of the
> distribution
> module and see if it is different from the set value.
>
> Stepan
> On 12/3/14, 6:16 AM, Nathan Baltzell wrote:
>> Yes, we cannot rule out the distribution modules yet.
>> One option to test that is to move a "bad" HV module to a different
>> distribution module.
>> -Nathan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2014, at 12:18 AM, Stepan Stepanyan <stepanya at jlab.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nathan,
>>>
>>> Are you sure this is the problem of the slot/channel on the
>>> mainframe/board or the distribution
>>> module. We should find a way of measuring voltages. perhaps before
>>> and
>>> after the distribution
>>> modules in the racks (may be tricky, we can ask electronics group for
>>> help).
>>>
>>> Regards, Stepan
>>>
>>> On 12/2/14, 9:00 PM, Nathan Baltzell wrote:
>>>> Dear Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> This evening we realized another problem probably due to the ECal HV
>>>> supply.
>>>>
>>>> First, we see gains from cosmics that are 30/40% higher on all
>>>> channels in
>>>> certain HV groups, while all channels outside those groups are
>>>> within few-%.
>>>> Those high-gain groups are isolated to the left half of the
>>>> calorimeter, on both
>>>> top and bottom, and occur every other HV group.
>>>>
>>>> One hypothesis is that it is due to motherboards, since left-top and
>>>> left-bottom are
>>>> from one manufacturer, while right-top and right-bottom are from
>>>> another. But I
>>>> think we ruled that out as the primary cause out by using LEDs:
>>>>
>>>> Swapping calorimeter channels from one HV mainframe channel to
>>>> another,
>>>> while keeping everything else constant (including, of course, the
>>>> voltage demand
>>>> and readback settings), resulted in large changes in measured LED
>>>> signal amplitude
>>>> consistent with cosmic gains for these low/high-gain groups.
>>>>
>>>> It may also be worth noting that these high-gain HV groups are on
>>>> mainframe
>>>> channels 3,5,7,9,11 for the modules in both slots 0 and 8. When
>>>> plotting for ECal
>>>> geometry the correspondence with mainframe channel is not obvious,
>>>> due to
>>>> mappings and relocation of one dead channel to another slot.
>>>>
>>>> So it seems the large variations in cosmic gains for certain HV
>>>> groups must be due
>>>> to the HV supply and nothing to do with the calorimeter. One
>>>> question is what to do in
>>>> the short term for 2014 running. We can try moving the modules to
>>>> open slots, or
>>>> just reseating them, both possible tomorrow. Or measure voltages
>>>> directly at the
>>>> calorimeter and adjust accordingly, ignoring mainframe's readback.
>>>> Or just correct
>>>> with gains, which could require some channel-dependent thresholds
>>>> for data
>>>> acquisition.
>>>>
>>>> - Nathan
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Gabriel CHARLES
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