[Hybrid baryons] [EXTERNAL] Re: RG-K pass1 readiness review

Tue Jun 9 11:30:39 EDT 2020

I am personally surprised that the review committee felt that their first
general remark should be about what we intend to publish in the upcoming
months
As we noted during the review this question was not among the charges we
were asked to address

It is simply false that we did not discuss plans for publications. In
reality several members of RGK are leading key efforts to make the
CLAS12 First Publication a possibility at all
Although this was not a charge we proactively included in our presentation
a statement explaining that the RGK data plays a central role in the plans
for this First Publication

In addition I personally (as I am sure others in RGK) had gone through the
exercise of extrapolating how many exclusive events we should expect for
DVCS, pi0, phi, rho, and omega depending on whether we use the CD or not
We chose not to present this work precisely because it was not a charge,
and when confronted with this forgotten charge by the Committee during the
Review, we explicitly told them that we had proactively performed this
homework and that the numbers were already at their disposal
We explained how we can publish DVCS without momentum measurement in the CD
using only proton identification

The Committee should realize that this publication strategy is identical to
the neutron DVCS strategy which they evaluate as having a clear and
demonstrated plan

I am personally not interested in fighting against other run groups for
shared resources and I find it regrettable that this is the framework
presented to us by the collaboration leadership. I think we should foster
an environment of working together instead.
We should have the technical capability of cooking several runs in
parallel, if necessary by having different fair shares for different
groups.
This seems rather important given the overhead we have accumulated, we can
predict that the issue of sharing resources between run groups is not going
to decrease in the near future.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 11:05 AM Annalisa D'Angelo <
annalisa.dangelo at roma2.infn.it> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> please find in attachment the RG-K Pass1 Readiness Review.
>
> Let me thank again all of you for the hard and excellent work: as you can
> read we only received a recommendation on the train size previewed for the
> skims, on which we will promptly work.
>
> My best regards and .... thank you again!
>
> Annalisa
>
>
> -------- Messaggio Inoltrato --------
> Oggetto: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: RG-K pass1 readiness review
> Data: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 23:59:59 +0000
> Mittente: Stepan Stepanyan <stepanya at jlab.org> <stepanya at jlab.org>
> A: Joo, Kyungseon <kyungseon.joo at uconn.edu> <kyungseon.joo at uconn.edu>
> CC: Annalisa D'Angelo <annalisa.dangelo at roma2.infn.it>
> <annalisa.dangelo at roma2.infn.it>, Cole Smith <lcsmith at jlab.org>
> <lcsmith at jlab.org>, Larry Weinstein <lweinste at odu.edu> <lweinste at odu.edu>,
> Nathan Baltzell <baltzell at jlab.org> <baltzell at jlab.org>, Marco Mirazita
> <marco.mirazita at lnf.infn.it> <marco.mirazita at lnf.infn.it>, Marco
> Battaglieri <battagli at jlab.org> <battagli at jlab.org>, Raffaella De Vita
> <devita at jlab.org> <devita at jlab.org>
>
> Dear Kyungseon,
>
> Please find attached our report on RG-K readiness for pass1. The only
> recommendation we have is about skimming, we ask to reconsider large size
> skims proposed at the review. Therefore, we do not think there is a need
> for another meeting before pass1 can start, just a confirmation that the
> recommendation has been addressed.
>
> We again, thank Annalisa and the whole RG-K group for their efforts.
>
> Regards,
> Stepan for the review committee
>
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Joo, Kyungseon <kyungseon.joo at uconn.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I would like to remind you that we will have an RG-K pass1 readiness
> review at 8:30am tomorrow, Friday June 5th, 2020.  You can find review
> materials at:
>
>
> https://clasweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/Run_Group_K#tab=Pass1_Review_Documents
>
> Here is the BJ link for this meeting:
> https://bluejeans.com/174945091
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bluejeans.com_174945091&d=DwMFAg&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=em3qOHzsg99TkBXDFKFg7EwHPEHhEX3Cbr5dfb-IZ54&m=8IaxCb48VAT9zF3auu_NTLwmeiE0F9CXPoQ7O1uzaOs&s=duYO9kaWSLMyC4EILROCEf8BHQyfjlqyGImq8S6jVyo&e=>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best regards, Kyungseon
>
> Kyungseon JOO
> Professor of Physics
> University of Connecticut
> Storrs, CT 06269
> http://www.phys.uconn.edu/~kjoo
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.phys.uconn.edu_-7Ekjoo&d=DwMD-g&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=gn-9vvgpWs_yJc3WsuF9RJ-N5KB-IyAPVAp6lMEyjdo&m=GVNwsFtysa_3Zv8AZUWbpghLT9Rq0jxLbNOXO1ol6pA&s=c2lCQdi6bioSLdZTdpRMDz9x3iFILXUBIC4AJKnzrBc&e=>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Annalisa D'Angelo <annalisa.dangelo at roma2.infn.it>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2020 5:29 AM
> *To:* Joo, Kyungseon <kyungseon.joo at uconn.edu>; lcs1956 at cox.net <
> lcs1956 at cox.net>; marco.mirazita at lnf.infn.it<marco.mirazita at lnf.infn.it>;
> battagli at jlab.org <battagli at jlab.org>; lweinste at odu.edu <lweinste at odu.edu
> >; stepanya at jlab.org <stepanya at jlab.org>; baltzell at jlab.org <
> baltzell at jlab.org>
> *Cc:* bryan.mckinnon at glasgow.ac.uk <bryan.mckinnon at glasgow.ac.uk>;
> devita at ge.infn.it <devita at ge.infn.it>; mcontalb at fe.infn.it <
> mcontalb at fe.infn.it>; lamiomar at gmail.com <lamiomar at gmail.com>;
> clas12_rgk at jlab.org<clas12_rgk at jlab.org>
> *Subject:* Re: RG-K pass1 readiness review
>
> *Message sent from a system outside of UConn.*
>
> Dear CLAS Collaboration Chair and Dear Review Committee,
> thank you very much!
> Best regards
> Annalisa
> Il 21/05/20 20:42, Joo, Kyungseon ha scritto:
>
> Dear Annalisa and the review committee,
>
> After consultation with Chair of the committee, the RG-K pass-1 readiness
> review is scheduled for June 5th (Friday), 2020 starting at 8:30am (JLab
> time).
>
> The bluejeans link is https://bluejeans.com/264062909
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fbluejeans.com-252F264062909-26data-3D02-257C01-257Ckyungseon.joo-2540uconn.edu-257Cc6ee7236d0bf4e1d639108d7fe32964a-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637257365556279532-26sdata-3DhzyGdeubuIVXs1uKt6jAoJHCJmySztMgM7Li3o06Zso-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAg&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=em3qOHzsg99TkBXDFKFg7EwHPEHhEX3Cbr5dfb-IZ54&m=8IaxCb48VAT9zF3auu_NTLwmeiE0F9CXPoQ7O1uzaOs&s=FCwT3FXHKWifJ1P7XrboqKMnvOLmGnDLgrYhRdKNXnI&e=>
> .
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best regards, Kyungseon
>
> Kyungseon JOO
> Professor of Physics
> University of Connecticut
> Storrs, CT 06269
> http://www.phys.uconn.edu/~kjoo
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-3A-252F-252Fwww.phys.uconn.edu-252F-7Ekjoo-26data-3D02-257C01-257Ckyungseon.joo-2540uconn.edu-257Cc6ee7236d0bf4e1d639108d7fe32964a-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637257365556279532-26sdata-3D6a5r-252BJmmiyJ2BSb2-252BX113WyAczTPYW-252FB5ZSxSLeSdns-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAg&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=em3qOHzsg99TkBXDFKFg7EwHPEHhEX3Cbr5dfb-IZ54&m=8IaxCb48VAT9zF3auu_NTLwmeiE0F9CXPoQ7O1uzaOs&s=znmZxmBM6yBLNKF4D0rPtzIWOSJlVZB5n2yrCClhWdE&e=>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Joo, Kyungseon
> *Sent:* Friday, May 8, 2020 6:43 AM
> *To:* Cole Smith <lcs1956 at cox.net> <lcs1956 at cox.net>; Marco Mirazita
> <Marco.Mirazita at lnf.infn.it> <Marco.Mirazita at lnf.infn.it>;
> battagli at jlab.org<battagli at jlab.org> <battagli at jlab.org>; Weinstein,
> Lawrence B. <lweinste at odu.edu> <lweinste at odu.edu>; Stepan Stepanyan
> <stepanya at jlab.org> <stepanya at jlab.org>; Joo, Kyungseon
> <kyungseon.joo at uconn.edu> <kyungseon.joo at uconn.edu>; baltzell at jlab.org
> <baltzell at jlab.org> <baltzell at jlab.org>
> *Cc:* annalisa.dangelo at roma2.infn.it <annalisa.dangelo at roma2.infn.it>
> <annalisa.dangelo at roma2.infn.it>; Bryan McKinnon
> <Bryan.McKinnon at glasgow.ac.uk> <Bryan.McKinnon at glasgow.ac.uk>; Raffaella
> De Vita <devita at ge.infn.it> <devita at ge.infn.it>; battagli at jlab.org
> <battagli at jlab.org> <battagli at jlab.org>; Contalbrigo Marco
> <mcontalb at fe.infn.it> <mcontalb at fe.infn.it>; Lamiaa El Fassi
> <lamiomar at gmail.com> <lamiomar at gmail.com>; Joo, Kyungseon
> <kyungseon.joo at uconn.edu> <kyungseon.joo at uconn.edu>
> *Subject:* RG-K pass1 readiness review
>
> Dear review committee,
>
> I would like to let you know that the RG-K pass-1 readiness review is
> scheduled for May 20th (Weds), 2020 starting at 8:30am (JLab time).
>
> The bluejeans link is https://bluejeans.com/318975012
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fbluejeans.com-252F318975012-26data-3D02-257C01-257Ckyungseon.joo-2540uconn.edu-257Cc6ee7236d0bf4e1d639108d7fe32964a-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637257365556289529-26sdata-3Dd6pC9aFBOEQOlQ-252BUwWtxAgY-252F7-252F5hGoBQ6uF1YsSJ-252F3U-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAg&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=em3qOHzsg99TkBXDFKFg7EwHPEHhEX3Cbr5dfb-IZ54&m=8IaxCb48VAT9zF3auu_NTLwmeiE0F9CXPoQ7O1uzaOs&s=PurmFjCYAj7vbkCziHwoiRPXJ5OiAle0KM72GbJMNIs&e=>.
>
>
> Dear Annalisa,
>
> Could you send us the link to RG-K wiki page where review materials will
> be posted?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best regards, Kyungseon
>
> Kyungseon JOO
> Professor of Physics
> University of Connecticut
> Storrs, CT 06269
> http://www.phys.uconn.edu/~kjoo
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-3A-252F-252Fwww.phys.uconn.edu-252F-7Ekjoo-26data-3D02-257C01-257Ckyungseon.joo-2540uconn.edu-257Cc6ee7236d0bf4e1d639108d7fe32964a-257C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080-257C0-257C0-257C637257365556289529-26sdata-3DNmG97y0ftx-252BWdeaLVbz8zEc6-252F52-252BDxZc45CaVNJ9iew-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAg&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=em3qOHzsg99TkBXDFKFg7EwHPEHhEX3Cbr5dfb-IZ54&m=8IaxCb48VAT9zF3auu_NTLwmeiE0F9CXPoQ7O1uzaOs&s=vhcFrTNYMvUGyIfytJXEsmAIrNxgqYeq-dZcpQiNdS8&e=>
>
> --
> ================================================
> Prof. Annalisa D'Angelo
> Dip. Fisica, Universita' di Roma "Tor Vergata"
> Istituto Nazionale di Fisica Nucleare
> Sezione di Roma Tor Vergata, Rome Italyemail:annalisa.dangelo at roma2.infn.it
> Jefferson Laboratory, Newport News, VA USA
> Email: annalisa at jlab.org
> Tel: + 39 06 72594562
>
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