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<p>Hi George,</p>
<p>I now know you to be one of two human beings</p>
<p>(I'm the other!) to have actually read the FOA</p>
<p>through! The same problem arose in the collider R&D FOA.</p>
<p>We chose to write to 38 pages (1.5 times 25) for the R&D,
under</p>
<p>the assumption that this was correct, and if the DOE gave us</p>
<p>trouble, the 38 pages was documented! Another problem</p>
<p>that we observed in the R&D FOA: the supplemental cover page
for</p>
<p>collaborations is implied to be not counted in the 38,</p>
<p>but is not explicitly stated to be exempt from the page</p>
<p>limit.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>You suggest the correct course of action: obtain clarification!</p>
<p>On both those items!<br>
</p>
<p>Geoff</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/6/2016 8:30 AM, George Neil wrote:<br>
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<p>To add to the confusion: <br>
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<p>The page limit of the project narrative according to the Lab
announcement is limited to <b>a)</b> 10 pages (see page 10
top) or <b>b)</b> 25 pages (see page 14, first paragraph) or
<b>c)</b> since it is a collaborative proposal, 50% more than
either a) or b) (see bold box page 15)</p>
<p>We will need to request clarification.<br>
</p>
<p> George</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/5/2016 12:01 PM, George Neil
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:bc5dac18-d28c-04d2-afde-0c020a2745ec@jlab.org"
type="cite">Good plan! <br>
<br>
<br>
On 5/5/2016 11:19 AM, Sundaresan Gobalakrishnan wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Thanks for the heads-up. We will look
closely at the details of the application submission process.
<br>
<br>
Let us target our submissions to be completed by June 24th, a
week before the actual deadline. <br>
<br>
Best regards, <br>
Sundaresan <br>
<br>
<br>
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Isotope-prod] information from
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Geoff is right. Though my Lab announcement said all should
be <br>
submitted through PAMS the companion announcement says
grants.gov. <br>
Sorry for the confusion. <br>
<br>
George <br>
<br>
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On 5/5/2016 10:39 AM, Geoffrey A. Krafft wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hello, <br>
<br>
The university collaborators probably need to go to <br>
<br>
grants.gov <br>
<br>
We just completed a similar collaborative proposal <br>
<br>
for the Jefferson Lab collider with university
collaborators, <br>
<br>
and they were submitted there. It is important to <br>
<br>
read the university companion announcement. <br>
<br>
Geoff <br>
<br>
On 5/5/2016 10:17 AM, George Neil wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">A few quick points from the RFP: <br>
<br>
Our collaboration is to submit an (almost) identical
proposal from <br>
each institution. The guts of the proposals, title,
etc., must be <br>
identical. The only differences will be the individual
budgets and <br>
budget justifications and a cover sheet appropriate to the
<br>
institution. Our university partners are to follow the
non-DOE lab <br>
announcement guidance for preparing the budgetary
information. The <br>
proposals must be submitted through the DOE PAMS system.
Your <br>
institution has to be registered in it to submit as does
the PI. <br>
Don't wait to the last minute to register. Instructions
are in the <br>
package I forwarded. <br>
<br>
The total technical narrative (proposed research,
timetable, key <br>
responsibilities) is only 10 pages but doesn't include
biographical <br>
sketches, current support, bibliography, facilities,
equipment, and <br>
data management plan. <br>
<br>
All institutions must submit before 5PM EDT July 1. <br>
<br>
George <br>
<br>
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