[jlab-9hgl 01067] Re: Proposed Rules Changes

[Mac Mestayer]

The rules don't help with the bare or weedy spots, but they do allow
lift, clean, place for an embedded ball.    - Mac

Rule 25-2 states, “A ball embedded in its own pitch-mark in the ground in 
any closely mown area through the green may be lifted, cleaned and 
dropped, without penalty, as near as possible to the spot where it lay but 
not nearer the hole. The ball when dropped must first strike a part of the 
course through the green."

"mestayer at jlab.org", (757)-269-7252

On Wed, 1 Mar 2017, Kelly Dixon wrote:

> Let's keep in mind that winter rules only apply to the closely mowed areas
like fairways, greens, and aprons.  Many of the fairways in the NNGC are bare,
have weeds, or can be unusually wet from an overzealous greenskeeper
(I don't think that the regular rules allow you to clean a muddy ball or even
lift it out when stuck in the soft mud).
>
> Kelly
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mac Mestayer" <mestayer at jlab.org>
> To: "Mark Ito" <marki at jlab.org>
> Cc: "Jlab Golf League" <jlab-9hgl at jlab.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 2:33:42 PM
> Subject: [jlab-9hgl 01065] Re: Proposed Rules Changes
>
> Hello all;
>
> I agree with Mark.
> The fundamental rule of golf is "play it as it lies".
> Playing "winter rules" in summer is crazy.
> You are always allowed to get relief from abnormal
> conditions like obstructions and casual water, but to
> allow "lift, clean and place" all year is just not right.
>
> 		- my two cents, Mac
>
> "mestayer at jlab.org", (757)-269-7252
>
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2017, Mark Ito wrote:
>
>> *Considering keeping winter rules for entire season*
>>
>> I don't like winter rules in general. It means after all shots in the fairway
>> I have to pick up the ball and tee it up on a tuft of grass (a
>> within-one-club-length tuft of grass, of course). Which is what I do (not
>> joking), otherwise I am letting down my teammates by not taking full
>> advantage of the rules. But it is silly (and not everyone know you can do
>> this, so don't tell them).
>>
>> Winter rules are for when the course is so sloppy that many fairway-landing
>> shots end up with the ball covered with mud. Or at least kinda like that in a
>> lot of places. Then winter rules make sense.
>>
>> *and adding specific info for hardpan in fairway and relief from roots.*
>>
>> We don't need special rules for special conditions that we make up. Such
>> things are just rub of the green, yo.
>>
>> http://golf.about.com/cs/golfterms/g/bldef_ruboftheg.htm
>>
>> If you don't like the lie, declare it unplayable.
>>
>> http://golf.about.com/cs/rulesofgolf/a/rule28.htm
>>
>> --
>> marki at jlab.org, (757)269-5295
>>
>>
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