<div dir="ltr"><div>Earl,</div><div><br></div><div>I should add...the relief under the various rules for various situations often have common elements, so the descriptions of the relief methods you posted are useful when thinking about relief generally.</div><div><br></div><div>....anyone remember Rolaids? 😉<br></div><div><br></div><div> -- Mark</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 7:14 PM Mark Ito <<a href="mailto:markito3@gmail.com">markito3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">My understanding is that an unplayable ball, a ball lost in a hazard, and a lost ball are all controlled by different USGA rules. In particular, an unplayable ball is a ball you found, you look at where it is sitting, it is in-bounds, and you say to yourself "no way should I try to hit that ball" for any number of possible reasons. Since you found it, well, it ain't lost.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 11:56 AM Earl Mosby <<a href="mailto:mosby@jlab.org" target="_blank">mosby@jlab.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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Per USGA, relief for unplayable ball in general area. (1) We do not take stroke & distance into account.</div>
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We should use (2) or (3) as options.</div>
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Per USGA, Back-on-the-Line Relief:</div>
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I hope this helps.</div>
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<b>From:</b>Â Jlab-9hgl on behalf of Mark Ito via Jlab-9hgl<br>
<b>Sent:</b>Â Monday, April 21, 2025 10:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b>Â JLab Nine-Hole Golf League<br>
<b>Subject:</b>Â [jlab-9hgl 02263] [EXTERNAL] ball lost or out of bounds </div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">There was a lot of discussion today about this rule. Here is the quote from the league rules:</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">"For any lost ball or ball hit out of bounds, you must drop a ball no more<br>
than two club lengths from the out of bounds spot or location the ball is<br>
determined lost. You must take a 1-stroke penalty. DO NOT go back to<br>
the original spot to hit again and DO NOT go back as far as you want to<br>
choose a nice spot to drop."</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Â -- Mark</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Mark M. Ito<br>
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</blockquote></div><div><br clear="all"></div><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Mark M. Ito<br><a href="mailto:markito3@gmail.com" target="_blank">markito3@gmail.com</a><br><br></div>