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Hi,</div>
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Being one of the people involved in this geometric kerfuffle I'm really enjoying the discussion about the rules of golf.</div>
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It's a good topic, especially since it seems to be dusting off a number of interpretations.</div>
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Maybe there's a top-5 list of handy rules we encounter more others worth circulating...</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 23, 2025 9:19 AM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> JLab Nine-Hole Golf League <JLAB-9HGL@jlab.org><br>
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We all have the ability to make mistakes playing golf.</div>
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"No matter how many mistakes you make or how slow you progress, you are still way ahead of everyone who isn't trying."</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 22, 2025 7:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Earl Mosby <mosby@jlab.org><br>
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<div>Folks,</div>
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<div>Two more questions and then I will shutup...</div>
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<div>a) Can you guys tell I love talking about the rules of golf?</div>
<div>b) Can you guys tell I am retired and have too much time on my hands?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 7:23 PM Mark Ito <<a href="mailto:markito3@gmail.com">markito3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>I should add...the relief under the various rules for various situations often have common elements, so the descriptions of the relief methods you posted are useful when thinking about relief generally.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">My understanding is that an unplayable ball, a ball lost in a hazard, and a lost ball are all controlled by different USGA rules. In particular, an unplayable ball is a ball you found, you look at where it is sitting, it is in-bounds, and you
say to yourself "no way should I try to hit that ball" for any number of possible reasons. Since you found it, well, it ain't lost.</div>
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Per USGA, relief for unplayable ball in general area. (1) We do not take stroke & distance into account.</div>
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We should use (2) or (3) as options.</div>
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<b>From:</b> Jlab-9hgl on behalf of Mark Ito via Jlab-9hgl<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 21, 2025 10:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> JLab Nine-Hole Golf League<br>
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<div style="direction:ltr">There was a lot of discussion today about this rule. Here is the quote from the league rules:</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">"For any lost ball or ball hit out of bounds, you must drop a ball no more<br>
than two club lengths from the out of bounds spot or location the ball is<br>
determined lost. You must take a 1-stroke penalty. DO NOT go back to<br>
the original spot to hit again and DO NOT go back as far as you want to<br>
choose a nice spot to drop."</div>
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