[Lerftest-ctrls] set_profile no longer works

Wesley Moore wmoore at jlab.org
Tue Jun 12 20:00:30 EDT 2018 

So calling /s/home/screen/bin/screen or putting /s/home/screen/bin upstream in the path won’t solve that?

The environment is isolated.  But JLAB staff have to be able to login use it, requiring a /home for all of them (and it’s a lot between operators, SRF staff, etc).  Only a few of you actually need/want /home as spec’d out for this environment.  So for this case you guys become the exception, not the rule.  For those softegr/laci/etc defining it in /etc/passwd is all that’s needed.  No one spoke up about screen, nor is it an actual user.  

Wesley

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 7:49 PM, Pascual, Patrick James <ppascual at slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi Wesley,
> 
> We use the /home/screen directory when using the iocConsole script to create a connection to an IOC and allows controls engineers to interact with their IOC using the screen utility (a variant of which is located at /home/screen/bin/screen). The /home/screen directory has the sticky bit set so that individual users can attach/detach multiple screen sessions to an IOC. Without this set up properly, iocConsole won't work and our controls developers won't be able to work on their IOC applications.
> 
> Can you explain how and why the filesystem has been changed to its current set up with things being moved to /s/home/*? I was under the impression that this LERF test facility would be an isolated system, but it appears that there is much more integration being done that I was unaware of.
> 
> Patrick J. Pascual
> Controls Software/Systems Engineer, EED
> Bldg 034, Rm 208A
> 2575 Sand Hill Rd., MS50
> Menlo Park, CA 94025
> (650) 926-3539
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Wesley Moore <wmoore at jlab.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 4:38:46 PM
> To: Hoobler, Sonya; Pascual, Patrick James
> Cc: lerftest-ctrls; Hill, Bruce
> Subject: Re: [Lerftest-ctrls]  set_profile no longer works
> 
> Patrick,
> 
> Can you tell me how that account/directory is referenced?  It doesnt seem to be used as a user. Does it just need to be in the PATH?
> 
> Not sure I can add a symlink the way you are expecting. I don't own that nfs share.
> 
> Wesley
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM -0400, "Pascual, Patrick James" <ppascual at slac.stanford.edu<mailto:ppascual at slac.stanford.edu>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Wesley,
> 
> Can you create a symlink on lclsapp1 and lclsapp2 called /home/screen pointing to /s/home/screen? It seems I don't have the right permissions to create a symlink there.
> 
> Patrick J. Pascual
> Controls Software/Systems Engineer, EED
> Bldg 034, Rm 208A
> 2575 Sand Hill Rd., MS50
> Menlo Park, CA 94025
> (650) 926-3539
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Wesley Moore
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 1:30:35 PM
> To: Hoobler, Sonya
> Cc: Pascual, Patrick James; lerftest-ctrls; Hill, Bruce
> Subject: Re: [Lerftest-ctrls]  set_profile no longer works
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Wesley
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sonya Hoobler"
>> To: "Wesley Moore"
>> Cc: "Patrick James Pascual" , "lerftest-ctrls" , "Bruce Hill"
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 4:17:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Lerftest-ctrls]  set_profile no longer works
> 
>> Should I be able to run the lclsapp2 processes now?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>>  Sonya
>> 
>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, Wesley Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> Almost done.  Need to rebuild our site's NIS stuff so they can mount /u/home.
>>> But everything should, in theory, work without that.
>>> 
>>> Wesley
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sonya Hoobler"
>>>> To: "Wesley Moore"
>>>> Cc: "Patrick James Pascual" , "lerftest-ctrls"
>>>> , "Bruce Hill"
>>>> 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 3:07:05 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Lerftest-ctrls]  set_profile no longer works
>>> 
>>>> Okay, now is a good time to reboot.
>>>> 
>>>> Sonya
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, Wesley Moore wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> You (Sonya) and I have already discussed this, but to the others, this is a
>>>>> great time to ensure all IOCs/etc startup as expected.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wesley
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Sonya Hoobler"
>>>>>> To: "Wesley Moore"
>>>>>> Cc: "Patrick James Pascual" , "lerftest-ctrls"
>>>>>> , "Bruce Hill"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:57:39 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Lerftest-ctrls]  set_profile no longer works
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Wesley,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You're right: we still need to reboot those.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm doing some work with the LERF team at the moment. There should be a
>>>>>> good window coming up. I'll be in touch.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>  Sonya
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, Wesley Moore wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Short answer, there is only /s/home/softegr and /s/home/laci.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What's not helping things is that app1/2 have not have /home corrected.
>>>>>>> So on those, /home and /s/home are the same thing.  SSA's were being tested so
>>>>>>> it couldn't be fixed.  If I can reboot, I'll wrap that up.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> @Sonya, when is a good time to reboot for the app1/2 /home fix?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> After they are sorted, /s/home will be the default for a few developers from
>>>>>>> SLAC, softegr, and laci.  CUE /home -> /u/home will be used for everything
>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wesley
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Patrick James Pascual"
>>>>>>>> To: "Sonya Hoobler" , "lerftest-ctrls"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cc: "Wesley Moore" , "Bruce Hill"
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:36:08 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Lerftest-ctrls]  set_profile no longer works
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Sonya,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm not exactly sure how to fix this. The change to /s/home/* is super confusing
>>>>>>>> and I don't know where the softegr account is supposed to land upon login,
>>>>>>>> since there appears to be both a /s/home/softegr and a /home/softegr. Maybe
>>>>>>>> Wesley or Bruce can help on this?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Patrick J. Pascual
>>>>>>>> Controls Software/Systems Engineer, EED
>>>>>>>> Bldg 034, Rm 208A
>>>>>>>> 2575 Sand Hill Rd., MS50
>>>>>>>> Menlo Park, CA 94025
>>>>>>>> (650) 926-3539
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: Lerftest-ctrls  on behalf of Sonya
>>>>>>>> Hoobler
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 8:08:14 AM
>>>>>>>> To: lerftest-ctrls at jlab.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Lerftest-ctrls]  set_profile no longer works
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> set_profile is no longer working as usual, presumably due to last week's
>>>>>>>> reconfiguration. When you have a chance, could you take a look?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>  Sonya
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Mailing List: Lerftest-ctrls at jlab.org
>>>>>>>> https://mailman.jlab.org/mailman/listinfo/lerftest-ctrls
>>>>>>>> Wiki: https://wiki.jlab.org/lerf/index.php/Network
> 
> 
> Hi Wesley,
> 
> Can you create a symlink on lclsapp1 and lclsapp2 called /home/screen pointing to /s/home/screen? It seems I don't have the right permissions to create a symlink there.
> 
> Patrick J. Pascual
> Controls Software/Systems Engineer, EED
> Bldg 034, Rm 208A
> 2575 Sand Hill Rd., MS50
> Menlo Park, CA 94025
> (650) 926-3539
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Wesley Moore <wmoore at jlab.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 1:30:35 PM
> To: Hoobler, Sonya
> Cc: Pascual, Patrick James; lerftest-ctrls; Hill, Bruce
> Subject: Re: [Lerftest-ctrls]  set_profile no longer works
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Wesley
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sonya Hoobler" <sonya at slac.stanford.edu>
>> To: "Wesley Moore" <wmoore at jlab.org>
>> Cc: "Patrick James Pascual" <ppascual at slac.stanford.edu>, "lerftest-ctrls" <lerftest-ctrls at jlab.org>, "Bruce Hill"
>> <bhill at slac.stanford.edu>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 4:17:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Lerftest-ctrls]  set_profile no longer works
> 
>> Should I be able to run the lclsapp2 processes now?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>>  Sonya
>> 
>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, Wesley Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> Almost done.  Need to rebuild our site's NIS stuff so they can mount /u/home.
>>> But everything should, in theory, work without that.
>>> 
>>> Wesley
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sonya Hoobler" <sonya at slac.stanford.edu>
>>>> To: "Wesley Moore" <wmoore at jlab.org>
>>>> Cc: "Patrick James Pascual" <ppascual at slac.stanford.edu>, "lerftest-ctrls"
>>>> <lerftest-ctrls at jlab.org>, "Bruce Hill"
>>>> <bhill at slac.stanford.edu>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 3:07:05 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Lerftest-ctrls]  set_profile no longer works
>>> 
>>>> Okay, now is a good time to reboot.
>>>> 
>>>> Sonya
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, Wesley Moore wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> You (Sonya) and I have already discussed this, but to the others, this is a
>>>>> great time to ensure all IOCs/etc startup as expected.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wesley
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Sonya Hoobler" <sonya at slac.stanford.edu>
>>>>>> To: "Wesley Moore" <wmoore at jlab.org>
>>>>>> Cc: "Patrick James Pascual" <ppascual at slac.stanford.edu>, "lerftest-ctrls"
>>>>>> <lerftest-ctrls at jlab.org>, "Bruce Hill"
>>>>>> <bhill at slac.stanford.edu>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:57:39 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Lerftest-ctrls]  set_profile no longer works
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Wesley,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You're right: we still need to reboot those.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm doing some work with the LERF team at the moment. There should be a
>>>>>> good window coming up. I'll be in touch.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>  Sonya
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, Wesley Moore wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Short answer, there is only /s/home/softegr and /s/home/laci.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What's not helping things is that app1/2 have not have /home corrected.
>>>>>>> So on those, /home and /s/home are the same thing.  SSA's were being tested so
>>>>>>> it couldn't be fixed.  If I can reboot, I'll wrap that up.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> @Sonya, when is a good time to reboot for the app1/2 /home fix?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> After they are sorted, /s/home will be the default for a few developers from
>>>>>>> SLAC, softegr, and laci.  CUE /home -> /u/home will be used for everything
>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wesley
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Patrick James Pascual" <ppascual at slac.stanford.edu>
>>>>>>>> To: "Sonya Hoobler" <sonya at slac.stanford.edu>, "lerftest-ctrls"
>>>>>>>> <lerftest-ctrls at jlab.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: "Wesley Moore" <wmoore at jlab.org>, "Bruce Hill" <bhill at slac.stanford.edu>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:36:08 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Lerftest-ctrls]  set_profile no longer works
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Sonya,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm not exactly sure how to fix this. The change to /s/home/* is super confusing
>>>>>>>> and I don't know where the softegr account is supposed to land upon login,
>>>>>>>> since there appears to be both a /s/home/softegr and a /home/softegr. Maybe
>>>>>>>> Wesley or Bruce can help on this?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Patrick J. Pascual
>>>>>>>> Controls Software/Systems Engineer, EED
>>>>>>>> Bldg 034, Rm 208A
>>>>>>>> 2575 Sand Hill Rd., MS50
>>>>>>>> Menlo Park, CA 94025
>>>>>>>> (650) 926-3539
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: Lerftest-ctrls <lerftest-ctrls-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of Sonya
>>>>>>>> Hoobler <sonya at slac.stanford.edu>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 8:08:14 AM
>>>>>>>> To: lerftest-ctrls at jlab.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Lerftest-ctrls]  set_profile no longer works
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> set_profile is no longer working as usual, presumably due to last week's
>>>>>>>> reconfiguration. When you have a chance, could you take a look?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>  Sonya
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Mailing List: Lerftest-ctrls at jlab.org
>>>>>>>> https://mailman.jlab.org/mailman/listinfo/lerftest-ctrls
>>>>>>>> Wiki: https://wiki.jlab.org/lerf/index.php/Network

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