<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">HI, I won’t be able to call into the meeting. What generator are you using? Also our acceptance is 5 to 17 mrad or so. I don’t understand why you have no electrons between 0.4 and 0.5 degrees. The 0.15% estimate is for pions generated in the target in the target (prompt electro or photo production) that go through the primary acceptance collimator, compared to the Moller rate through that collimator. No punch throughs have ever been properly simulated (yet). Perhaps I am mistaken about what you call 0.15%.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers, KK</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 26, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Neven Simicevic <<a href="mailto:neven@phys.latech.edu" class="">neven@phys.latech.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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Dear all,<br class="">
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I do not know if we will have time to discuss it today, but I am
looking into pion/electron rates. <br class="">
In all our simulations we assume that the pion rate is ~0.15
percent. <br class="">
Attached is my first preliminary simulation of pion/electron rates
as a function of the particles angle and energy.<br class="">
I have to carefully recheck this numbers, change binning a little,
and increase statistics.<br class="">
<br class="">
Cheers,<br class="">
<br class="">
Neven<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/25/2017 08:03 AM, Kurtis Bartlett
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As a reminder we will have our next meeting tomorrow
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Kurtis
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As a reminder to the members of the <span class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096m_-7059616030237860476m_6598305119741077375m_581691258447352265m_-2983144210669640487m_7714064982042988025m_3723910778592663036m_-4098367283173685901m_-8730992862358660488m_-4991608047743486789m_2145963482046753178m_-3216089366405490180m_6242814976674702406m_6383061932988912735gmail-m_2175965128871661572gmail-m_-4121694774762064494gmail-il"><span class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096m_-7059616030237860476m_6598305119741077375m_581691258447352265m_-2983144210669640487m_7714064982042988025m_3723910778592663036m_-4098367283173685901m_-8730992862358660488m_-4991608047743486789m_2145963482046753178m_-3216089366405490180m_6242814976674702406il"><span 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class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096m_-7059616030237860476m_6598305119741077375il"><span class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096m_-7059616030237860476il"><span class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096il"><span class="m_-2189440189183845079il">MOLLER</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span> <span class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096m_-7059616030237860476m_6598305119741077375m_581691258447352265m_-2983144210669640487m_7714064982042988025m_3723910778592663036m_-4098367283173685901m_-8730992862358660488m_-4991608047743486789m_2145963482046753178m_-3216089366405490180m_6242814976674702406m_6383061932988912735gmail-m_2175965128871661572gmail-m_-4121694774762064494gmail-il"><span 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class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096m_-7059616030237860476m_6598305119741077375m_581691258447352265m_-2983144210669640487m_7714064982042988025m_3723910778592663036m_-4098367283173685901m_-8730992862358660488m_-4991608047743486789il"><span class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096m_-7059616030237860476m_6598305119741077375m_581691258447352265m_-2983144210669640487m_7714064982042988025m_3723910778592663036m_-4098367283173685901m_-8730992862358660488il"><span class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096m_-7059616030237860476m_6598305119741077375m_581691258447352265m_-2983144210669640487m_7714064982042988025m_3723910778592663036m_-4098367283173685901il"><span class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096m_-7059616030237860476m_6598305119741077375m_581691258447352265m_-2983144210669640487il"><span class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096m_-7059616030237860476m_6598305119741077375m_581691258447352265il"><span class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096m_-7059616030237860476m_6598305119741077375il"><span class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096m_-7059616030237860476il"><span class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096il"><span class="m_-2189440189183845079il">Pion</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span> <span class="m_-2189440189183845079m_-1454229031253393096m_-7059616030237860476m_6598305119741077375m_581691258447352265m_-2983144210669640487m_7714064982042988025m_3723910778592663036m_-4098367283173685901m_-8730992862358660488m_-4991608047743486789m_2145963482046753178m_-3216089366405490180il">Background</span>/Det<wbr class="">ector
working group, there will be a meeting <b class="">next week</b>
on Tuesday Sept. 26 at 4 pm EST.
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<div style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">The agenda for the meeting
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<div style="font-size:12.8px" class="">Hope to see everyone
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<div style="font-size:12.8px" class="">Cheers,</div>
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<div class="">College of William and Mary Physics
Department<br class="">
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<div class="">College of William and Mary Physics Department<br class="">
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Neven Simicevic
Wayne and Juanita Spinks Professor of Physics
College of Engineering and Science
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