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<p>Okay, understood. I still think it is not too early to start
worrying about how we will transfer large amounts of data from
JLab (and to a lesser degree to JLab). But that's a different
topic then ...<br>
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<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Michael <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I agree.
This is more about ensuring we have a data catalog (pointer
to data and who to contact) than a database with all the
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Juliette Mammei <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:crowder@jlab.org"><crowder@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, April 11, 2022 at 11:41 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Michael Gericke <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mgericke@jlab.org"><mgericke@jlab.org></a>,
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Moller_simulation] [EXTERNAL] Better
practices for major milestone simulation outputs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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came up in a discussion about storing stuff to tape at
JLAB. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">But the
suggestions still work; if stuff is stored on NDRIO or
whatever it is now, then that info should be in the
presentation. It may be that it is not easily
accessible to everyone yet, but at least it could be
found...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:
Michael Gericke <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mgericke@jlab.org"><mgericke@jlab.org></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Date:
2022-04-11 10:22 a.m. (GMT-06:00)
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Re: [Moller_simulation] [EXTERNAL] Better practices for
major milestone simulation outputs
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<p>Hi Rakitha,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>For item 1: Not all simulations are done on the JLab farm.
For example, our group may/will run detector related
simulations on "Compute Canada" systems and associated
storage and use local (University) storage.<br>
For that, if there is to be a central data repository, we'd
have to make sure that we have a reasonably efficient way to
transfer/mirror data between JLab locations and other
locations. We need that eventually for
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the MOLLER data anyway.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Michael <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On
2022-04-11 10:06 a.m., Rakitha Sanjeewa Beminiwattha
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Today
we discussed tape backup of major milestone
simulation outputs. Here are the main suggestions
for moving forward. Please add any further
suggestions and I will update accordingly. Then I
will circulate the final version. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">1.
Include the following information in the final
presentation: location of the root files backed up
in the MSS tape system, location of the scripts
utilized for the analysis (github or tape location),
G4 and git versions<br>
2. Upload the presentation to doc-db and include the
doc-db label simBackup<br>
3. Naming conventions for backup root files: Include
the output root files under the subsystem/group
directory and provide a name to match study, owner,
and geometry information<br>
4. There is a suggestion to keep a master
spreadsheet with all the simulation output entries
but due to fragmented work going on it will not be
easy. For now, we will keep a spreadsheet for
results shown in the simulation meeting
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