[Pansophy] SNS PPU SEC 01 vendor docs review
Gary Cheng
cheng at jlab.org
Tue Apr 6 12:00:32 EDT 2021
Peter,
Yes, I will mention in the travlers the M:\ folder for all curves and
ask that the .zip should be uploaded.
Thanks,
Gary
On 4/6/2021 11:55 AM, Peter Owen wrote:
> Gary,
> I like this system. The traveler should specify that the *.zip file
> should be uploaded for a sensor since that contains all curve file
> types. You may want to mention in the traveler that the master copy of
> all curves is stored on the M: drive. Though maybe not everyone has
> access to that folder.
> M:\SNS_PPU\CM Production\Cernox Curves\All Cernox
>
> Peter
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Gary Cheng <cheng at jlab.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 6, 2021 11:46 AM
> *To:* Peter Owen <powen at jlab.org>; Larry King <king at jlab.org>
> *Cc:* srfinv at jlab.org <srfinv at jlab.org>; pansophy <pansophy at jlab.org>;
> Naeem Huque <huque at jlab.org>; Ed Daly <edaly at jlab.org>; John Fischer
> <fischer at jlab.org>
> *Subject:* Re: SNS PPU SEC 01 vendor docs review
> I need to finalize the newest revisions of my SEC and REC inspection
> travelers before the next end can(s) show up. I'd like to get a
> consensus on what we want to do with the Cernox curves for the end can
> sensors. Each SEC has 2 sensors and each REC has 10. We sent to the
> end can vendor a total of 84 sensors to be installed on 7 SECs and 7
> RECs. Vendor will send us information about which sensors (S/Ns) are
> installed on which SEC/REC at what locations (wires labelled with
> wiring diagram sensor naming convention, such as TDxx022A).
>
> To link each SEC or REC with its specific sensors and facilitate
> pansophy search of the data curves for use in shipping traveler in the
> end, here is what I propose to doin regard to Cernox sensors & data
> curves, responsible parties are identified:
>
> 1. Create a dropdown list of the S/Ns for all 84 sensors that were
> sent to the end can vendor ----*SRFINV team or Pansophy team*
> 2. For each SEC or REC, check vendor documentation for sensors
> actually installed. Also verify the labels on wires are correct. ---
> *SRF Instrumentation team*
> 3. Traveler will have a fileupload for each Cernox sensor. That is,
> SNSPPU-CMA-INSP-SEC will have 2 dropdowns and 2 fileuploads,
> SNSPPU-CMA-INSP-REC will have 10 dropdowns and 10 fileuploads. ----
> *Gary Cheng*
> 4. Select the Cernox S/N and upload the corresponding curve. --- *SRF
> Instrumentation team*
>
> To select 2 or 10 sensors from 84 S/Ns, locate their curves and upload
> them can be a tedious process. Any better ideas are welcome. Note that
> we don't know what sensors the vendor installs on a SEC or REC till
> they are done with their installation. Currently, we get the sensor
> installation info when we receive the final documentation package for
> a certain SEC/REC.
>
> Thanks,
> Gary
>
> On 3/16/2021 3:07 PM, Peter Owen wrote:
>> The files are saved in the DCXCU inventory traveler. I've made sure
>> every traveler filed out has files attached, either individual or the
>> zip. I pulled them to the M: folder so I could get a list of values
>> for Gary to send to the EC vendor. Calvin said he downloaded the
>> curves straight from the Lakeshore website, so I expect we could get
>> the curves again if they are lost.
>>
>> I see no problem with storing the curves in as many places as
>> possible in what ever format is most appropriate, as long as we know
>> which one is the master set. I think the inventory traveler should be
>> that set.
>>
>> Peter
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Larry King <king at jlab.org> <mailto:king at jlab.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 16, 2021 2:28 PM
>> *To:* Peter Owen <powen at jlab.org> <mailto:powen at jlab.org>; Gary Cheng
>> <cheng at jlab.org> <mailto:cheng at jlab.org>
>> *Subject:* RE: SNS PPU SEC 01 vendor docs review
>>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> I guess I vote for having a step to upload the individual curves to
>> the EC receiving traveler. Not wanting to belabor the point, I’m
>> just going to lay out my logic. There may be another, better way,
>> and I realize I may be missing something, so please just take these
>> as suggestions.
>>
>> -The .zip files are probably what we need to deliver to ORNL with the
>> CM, so we need to be sure we have one for every sensor installed. I
>> think that check should happen early on, like during EC receipt. We
>> had a few sensors for L2 that we could not find curves for and it
>> took a while for FNAL to find them for us.
>>
>> -The .dat files are needed for CMTF cooldown. Ideally, there would
>> be links already in the CM Assy or Testing traveler, pointing to the
>> EC receiving traveler.
>>
>> -The .zip files will need to eventually make it to the shipping
>> traveler for delivery to ORNL. It seems easier to have the shipping
>> traveler grab the data from the CM ASSY or EC receiving traveler.
>>
>> -I also seem to remember being told that we should try to move away
>> from relying on shared drive folders for critical customer data, so a
>> traveler may be a better place to keep all these curves.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> *From:*Peter Owen <powen at jlab.org> <mailto:powen at jlab.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 16, 2021 1:35 PM
>> *To:* Gary Cheng <cheng at jlab.org> <mailto:cheng at jlab.org>; Larry King
>> <king at jlab.org> <mailto:king at jlab.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: SNS PPU SEC 01 vendor docs review
>>
>> The curves are saved in M:\SNS_PPU\CM Production\Cernox Curves\All Cernox
>>
>> I made that folder over the summer when we send cernox to the end can
>> vendor. Which file type should be uploaded to the traveler? The .zip
>> has all the other files inside. Alternatively, could the pansophy
>> team pull the appropriate file from the inventory traveler after the
>> serial number is entered?
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:*Gary Cheng <cheng at jlab.org <mailto:cheng at jlab.org>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 16, 2021 11:37 AM
>> *To:* Larry King <king at jlab.org <mailto:king at jlab.org>>; Peter Owen
>> <powen at jlab.org <mailto:powen at jlab.org>>
>> *Subject:* Re: SNS PPU SEC 01 vendor docs review
>>
>> Hi Larry,
>>
>> Peter bought all Cernox sensors for SNS PPU and we sent 84 Cernox
>> sensors as GFMs to the end can vendor. So we have the calc curves.
>> Currently in the traveler's Step 3, there are fields for comments and
>> file upload:
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe Peter or you can use these two to either make a comment about
>> where to find the full calc curves for the sensors installed on a
>> certain SEC or upload the curves? If you'd like to have another
>> specific fileupload button just for the curves, I can add that.
>> Please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gary
>>
>> On 3/15/2021 4:59 PM, Larry King wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gary,
>>
>> The only problem with waiting until the CMTF testing traveler to
>> enter the curves is that they might be missing. Since the data
>> is supposed to come from the vendor, I think the files should be
>> uploaded sooner than later, in case there’s a problem. My
>> thought was that the “check Cernox data” step of the inspection
>> traveler was to check that the files were available for each
>> serial number of sensor installed, and either upload the files or
>> provide a link to them.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> *From:*Gary Cheng <cheng at jlab.org> <mailto:cheng at jlab.org>
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 12, 2021 2:22 PM
>> *To:* Larry King <king at jlab.org> <mailto:king at jlab.org>; Peter
>> Owen <powen at jlab.org> <mailto:powen at jlab.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: SNS PPU SEC 01 vendor docs review
>>
>> Hi Larry and Peter,
>>
>> I am working on a new revision of the SNSPPU-CMA-INSP-SEC
>> traveler and the first version of SNSPPU-CMA-INSP-REC. Each SEC
>> has 2 Cernox sensors and each REC has 10. Do you think it is
>> necessary to attach full cal curves to the CMA-INSP travelers?
>> Maybe they are more appropriate to include in the CM testing
>> traveler?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gary
>>
>> On 3/11/2021 3:40 PM, Larry King wrote:
>>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> I was looking for the Cernox curves for the 2 sensors in the
>> SEC 01 end can. I found the spreadsheet of all of the room
>> temperature values,
>>
>> https://jlabdoc.jlab.org/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-239158/Nominal%20Cernox%20Values.xlsx
>> <https://jlabdoc.jlab.org/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-239158/Nominal%20Cernox%20Values.xlsx>
>>
>> and I assume those data points were taken from the full cal
>> curves, but I don’t see the cal curves in the traveler.
>>
>> https://pansophy.jlab.org/pansophy/Travelers/TRAVELER_FORM.cfm?project=SNSPPU&area=SNSPPU&system=CMA&TRAV_ID=SNSPPU-CMA-SEC-INSP&TRAV_REVISION=R2&page=1&maxpage=5&TRAV_SEQ_NUM=1&ncr_num=.&travstat=n&serialnum=001&SN=001&SNType=SECSN
>> <https://pansophy.jlab.org/pansophy/Travelers/TRAVELER_FORM.cfm?project=SNSPPU&area=SNSPPU&system=CMA&TRAV_ID=SNSPPU-CMA-SEC-INSP&TRAV_REVISION=R2&page=1&maxpage=5&TRAV_SEQ_NUM=1&ncr_num=.&travstat=n&serialnum=001&SN=001&SNType=SECSN>
>>
>> They’re also not in the vendor-received document dump/pdf
>> pile. Do you have them all in one big folder somewhere?
>>
>> They will need to be available for CMTF cooldowns, and
>> delivered to ORNL. I would prefer that we loaded the
>> relevant curves into each traveler, but pointing to a common
>> folder would work, too.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> *From:*Peter Owen <powen at jlab.org> <mailto:powen at jlab.org>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 2:08 PM
>> *To:* Gary Cheng <cheng at jlab.org> <mailto:cheng at jlab.org>;
>> Larry King <king at jlab.org> <mailto:king at jlab.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: SNS PPU SEC 01 vendor docs review
>>
>> Hi Gary,
>>
>> I think Meyer had their instrument set to kilo-ohms rather
>> than ohms on 10/17/20, so the numbers are 1/1000th of what I
>> expect. Other than that, the measurements look good. I only
>> saw data for two sensors, 149779 and 149777. Are there other
>> sensors to check?
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:*Gary Cheng <cheng at jlab.org <mailto:cheng at jlab.org>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 8:19 AM
>> *To:* Kurt Macha <macha at jlab.org <mailto:macha at jlab.org>>;
>> Jenord Alston <jalston at jlab.org <mailto:jalston at jlab.org>>;
>> Mark Wiseman <wiseman at jlab.org <mailto:wiseman at jlab.org>>;
>> Peter Owen <powen at jlab.org <mailto:powen at jlab.org>>; John
>> Fischer <fischer at jlab.org <mailto:fischer at jlab.org>>
>> *Cc:* Larry King <king at jlab.org <mailto:king at jlab.org>>;
>> Naeem Huque <huque at jlab.org <mailto:huque at jlab.org>>; Ed Daly
>> <edaly at jlab.org <mailto:edaly at jlab.org>>; Melissa Torres
>> <torres at jlab.org <mailto:torres at jlab.org>>; srfinv at jlab.org
>> <mailto:srfinv at jlab.org> <srfinv at jlab.org
>> <mailto:srfinv at jlab.org>>; Matt Marchlik <marchlik at jlab.org
>> <mailto:marchlik at jlab.org>>
>> *Subject:* Re: SNS PPU SEC 01 vendor docs review
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> This is a reminder that vendor docs need to be reviewed. Your
>> comments will be shared with the vendor so changes will be
>> made in future documentation pacakges.
>> Jenord has made his comments on the welding docs.
>> Here is the list of lead reviewers and the backups:
>>
>> Sections 1, 2 & 6 --- Gary Cheng/Daly/Marchlik
>> Section 3 --- Macha/Fischer/Cheng
>> Section 4 --- Fischer/Naeem/Cheng
>> Section 5 --- Alston/Fischer
>> Section 7 --- Owen/King
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On 2/24/2021 11:45 AM, Gary Cheng wrote:
>>
>> For folks who need charge code, please use PUSECP for
>> supply end cans and PUREPR for return end cans
>> Thanks!
>> Gary
>>
>> On 2/24/2021 11:30 AM, Gary Cheng wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I need your help to review SEC 01 vendor documents
>> that can be found at
>> M:\SNS_PPU\Procurement\VendorDocuments\5_End Cans\SEC 01
>>
>>
>> Note that the first file has everything in it. I
>> split the sections to make it easier for you to find
>> the relevant docs. Here is how the sections would be
>> divided to each reviewer(s), with primary/backup:
>>
>> Sections 1, 2 & 6 --- Gary Cheng/Daly/Marchlik
>> Section 3 --- Macha/Fischer/Cheng
>> Section 4 --- Fischer/Naeem/Cheng
>> Section 5 --- Alston/Fischer
>> Section 7 --- Owen/King
>>
>> You are also expected to check docs for SEC 02-07 and
>> REC 01-07. Once relevant travelers are open, I will
>> remind you to fill up the traveler's vendor doc
>> review step.
>>
>> FYI, drawings and SOW can be found at
>> M:\SNS_PPU\Procurement\Info for Procurement
>> Packages\End Can. The SOW defines what we expect the
>> vendor to submit. If you have questions, please let
>> me know.
>>
>> We need to feed back to the vendor asap on
>> missing/incorrect docs. So I would appreciate if you
>> can look through the relevant docs and feedback to me
>> by end of Friday 2/26 or let me know when you can
>> finish.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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